The Ferrari Daytonas of Miami Vice

[Sonny-Burnett]

Very nice car buddy!

Thanks Timm. Definitely a work in progress, but also definitely worth it.

[CameraDaytona]

Sonny-Burnett - It would be great to see the McBurnie paperwork. I hope you can get it scanned and post it.

[Stinger390X]

Congrats SBBeautiful ride for sure!

[Kavinsky]

Yeah the paperwork would be a nice asset to the site, hell I think we've already got the paperwork for chris craft actually.and here's the business card for them, not sure where I got the photo of it actually:http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1530/coachworkmcburniec.jpglove the shape of the car in it though

[Sonny-Burnett]

Sonny-Burnett - It would be great to see the McBurnie paperwork. I hope you can get it scanned and post it.

CameraDaytona- thanks and I will definitely do that. It is now having its second mechanical inspection and this is Phase 1. Once I get the mechanicals worked out in a few weeks, then I plan to get interior estimates to gut and redo. I have some pics of your interior courtesy of JN, but would greatly appreciate any more you care to share so that I can hopefully restore the interior to try and faithfully re-create the show cars.

[Sonny-Burnett]

Congrats SBBeautiful ride for sure!

Thanks Stinger. Maybe we can exchange joy-rides some time as I love your boat!

[Sonny-Burnett]

http://img375.imageshack.us/img375/1530/coachworkmcburniec.jpglove the shape of the car in it though

Now that's a pretty cool souvenir to have - I have to check tonight to see if I have a business card.

[Sonny-Burnett]

Update on my Daytona purchaseUpdate on the just-acquired Daytona:After 2 tries, found a reputable Corvette specialist with much experience to estimate mechanical repairs needed. Needs the following: power steering, radiator re-core, rear differential work, broken engine and trans mounts, trans seal work, brakes, and AC work, all for starters. (this is only my Phase 1)I also learned that this McBurnie had an upgraded racing suspension package installed (also in the sale paperwork). The Corvette guy pointed out heavy duty stabilizer bars, and racing leaf springs, and heavy duty front coils. Said the suspension was modified for racing at high G turns at very high speeds. I am going to fix the mounts and then decide if I want a smoother ride (replace the stailizers) as this kind of suspension makes you feel every bump in the road.Big bucks for all this. But he tells me that even though he has vintage Corvettes and a number of recent era Corvettes on his lot, everyone that comes in has asked about the Daytona and many recognize it from Vice.

[Kavinsky]

Well if you want the best of both worlds, starting with the corvette c5 corvettes started using a sort of magnetic shock where the shocks would become harder or softer with the touch of a button from electrical current going throught them.It might be possibile to rig that up on your C3, so when you want to go racing its as hard as it needs to be and soft for the rough roads on the way back.and I have to admit I still find that funny, the words that always seemed to be used to describe the testarossa's introduction in MV were to blow this (the daytona) phox's ferrari out of the peoples mind, but it sounds like they failed seeing as 20 years latter people remember and lust after the daytona far more than the testarossa, me included.

[jurassic narc]

Update on the just-acquired Daytona:After 2 tries' date=' found a reputable Corvette specialist with much experience to estimate mechanical repairs needed. Needs the following: power steering, radiator re-core, rear differential work, broken engine and trans mounts, trans seal work, brakes, and AC work, all for starters. (this is only my Phase 1)I also learned that this McBurnie had an upgraded racing suspension package installed (also in the sale paperwork). The Corvette guy pointed out heavy duty stabilizer bars, and racing leaf springs, and heavy duty front coils. Said the suspension was modified for racing at high G turns at very high speeds. I am going to fix the mounts and then decide if I want a smoother ride (replace the stailizers) as this kind of suspension makes you feel every bump in the road.Big bucks for all this. But he tells me that even though he has vintage Corvettes and a number of recent era Corvettes on his lot, everyone that comes in has asked about the Daytona and many recognize it from Vice.[/quote']This seems to be typical for the C3. I had to have the transmission rebuilt, replace the power steering, have the brakes completrly redon with stainless inserts, replace the radiator, heater core, hoses, and get some miscellaneous minor work done. All that is not nearly as expensive as it may sound (and tens of thousands cheaper than on a real Ferrari). I have the stock suspension system and it gives a smooth ride. I have made a couple of five hour plus trips in the Daytona, and have been very comfortable.And the car is lighter than a stock Vette, so the engine is going to be smoking hot without any major tweeking. I have the standard 350 transmission (which is what it appears both show cars used) . I have considered an overdrive transmission for more comfort on longer trips, but I am usually aroudn the house and the 350 has a lot of low end.

[Kavinsky]

Actually Jurrasic that brings up an interesting point, whats the power to weight ratio of your car compaired to the standard one?

[Gary1911A1]

Well if you want the best of both worlds' date=' starting with the corvette c5 corvettes started using a sort of magnetic shock where the shocks would become harder or softer with the touch of a button from electrical current going throught them.It might be possibile to rig that up on your C3, so when you want to go racing its as hard as it needs to be and soft for the rough roads on the way back.and I have to admit I still find that funny, the words that always seemed to be used to describe the testarossa's introduction in MV were to blow this (the daytona) phox's ferrari out of the peoples mind, but it sounds like they failed seeing as 20 years latter people remember and lust after the daytona far more than the testarossa, me included.[/quote'] That's me too. The Testarossa was nice, but the Daytona looked cooler to me.

[jurassic narc]

Actually Jurrasic that brings up an interesting point' date=' whats the power to weight ratio of your car compaired to the standard one?[/quote'] I don't know. And I don't know how to find out. Is that something a service shop can measure?

[Kavinsky]

Its a math equation, its the peak power given out by the engine in hp which would be figured out by putting it on a dyno and then divided by the cars weight to get itfigure a lotus elan one of the fastest small cars of the 1960's stock is 1560 pounds with a peak power output of 105 hp at 5500 rpm 105 divided by 1560 = 0.067 (0.067 hp/lb). 0.067 x 1560 pounds = 104 hp for the cars entire weight 0.067 x 2000 = 134 hp for the full ton a stock 1981 vette is 3,345 pounds with 200 hp from the standard 350 so 200 divided by 3,345 which is 0.059 (0.059 hp/lb)0.059 x 2000 = 118 horsepower per tonBuggati veyron 4,162 pounds 1,001 hp1001 divided by 4,162 = (0.240 hp/lb)0.240 x 2000 = 480 hp per ton

[COOPER&BURNETT]

Jurassic, What would you do if you needed a new top on your DAYTONA, being they don't make them anymore?

[jurassic narc]

Jurassic' date=' What would you do if you needed a new top on your DAYTONA, being they don't make them anymore?[/quote'] Actually a good upholstry shop can make one. The top is not the same as a Ferrari top nor a Corvette top. The tops were made from a german brand of canvas.Thankfully, my top is relativley new.

[Kavinsky]

Have you ever taken your car to the track and raced it jurassic?

[jurassic narc]

Have you ever taken your car to the track and raced it jurassic?

No, but I've had it past 100 on the interstate and it gets really light. It is more the ideal car for scooting around town--lots of low end, barks the tires as it hits second, and it sticks a corner like velcro.Great for running to the fitness center, or to pick up a quart of milk!!

[Kavinsky]

Sounds about perfect for me! The most driving fun I've had is from blasting around corners at about 35 to 40 late at night anyways.

[jurassic narc]

Sounds about perfect for me! The most driving fun I've had is from blasting around corners at about 35 to 40 late at night anyways.

Then you would love the Daytona. It was the ideal car for running around in Miami at night!

[Kavinsky]

you know its funny I've managed to find both of my dream/ ideal cars from tvthe daytona for pleasure driving and back roads terrorising, althought the front end lift at a 100 sounds a little worrying to me which might be why theres a big vent under the front end of the real one.it might act as a presure reducer like the vents behind the wheels on some of the old shelbys and some modern ferraris to help glue the car to the road at high speed.and then the ashes to ashes ur (for original) quattro for a daily driver: 4 seats, good trunkspace, would be rather inconspicuous in a dark color and get good gas mileage from the 5 clyinder turbo, th only problem would be finding parts for it.Audi is one of the few european car companies that doesnt support their old models, everyone else seems to have a classic center by now save for them, hell bmw just started theirs up. Made even more ironic by the fact that this was the car that made them famous by winning almost all of the rallys with it between 1981 - 1983 and there celebrating its 30th aniversary this year.

[Sonny-Burnett]

No' date=' but I've had it past 100 on the interstate and it gets really light. It is more the ideal car for scooting around town--lots of low end, barks the tires as it hits second, and it sticks a corner like velcro.Great for running to the fitness center, or to pick up a quart of milk!![/quote'] I've only had mine to about 85 so far when I drove it home from the seller (another state). I do know that it gets to that speed very quickly as it is very light. I enjoyed cruising our downtown over the 4th weekend and watching all the heads turning. I saw a driver of a red Ferrari similar to the 87 Testarossa in later seasons almost break his neck watching the Daytona pass by. Can't wait to get the interior renovation going. Update on the mechanical repair process: mine has been in and out of the shop for the past few weeks and they have rebuilt and replaced the differential, R&R'd the power steering lines, replaced some suspension items to reduce driving noise, and some other stuff. Still needs radiator flush and maybe re-coring, front suspension work, and transmission seal repairs--common on this year of Vette chassis. I am struggling, however, to find a 1978-1982 Vette dash assembly to replace my faux ferrari dash assembly (the show car is a modified Vette dash). If anyone has any good sources I'd apppreciate a heads-up. When all mechanical work is completed, and it is moving slowly, then the interior work begins.

[Kavinsky]

Well glad to hear its going well but I really dont know of anyone who would have a dash, hell maybe you could contact carl roberts and see if he has a spare one lying around.

[Kavinsky]

Hey Sonny Burnet hows it coming along with your car or did you put it in storage for the fall/winter season?

[Sonny-Burnett]

Hey Sonny Burnet hows it coming along with your car or did you put it in storage for the fall/winter season?

Well, repairs have slowed a bit as the repair shop I was using got flooded with other cars so I have been on hold for a few weeks now. What is still open mechanically: A/C doesn't work, Brakes and right wheels are squeaking; my rebuilt differential is leaking (warranty), some front end minor leaking, and I get exhaust smoke at cold start (valve seals). All the major stuff is fixed otherwise and it runs way better than when I first acquired it. I last had bearings replaced, the cooling system flushed and scrubbed out, brakes reworked, trans seals replaced, the smog pump removed (made noises), trunk struts replaced, ball joints replaced in front, control arms replaced, and further suspension work completed. I have had no luck in locating a good condition dash assembly, however, so I have been stalled in beginning my interior restoration. Can anyone suggest a source where I might find a good condition 78-82 Vette dash Assembly (incl all guages)? This is really the starting point to start the interior work on the dash, seats and center console. On a better note, I waxed it up (body still looks very good) and shined the Zenith wire wheels this weekend and cruised around over the Holiday weekend. Got lots of comments from passersby and even a few recognized the McBurnie body from Vice. It is loud and fast and really fun to show off. Can't wait though to make the interior look good. Thanks for asking, Kavinsky.