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Episode #100 "To Have And To Hold"

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timm525

Not a big thriller for me. It was nice to see Sonny with his kid but that was all.6 for me.

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Guest neworder

After one of the best episodes of Miami Vice, this crap is produced. The 100th episode of Vice is a very disapointing one. Rubbish storyline, rubbish acting throughout, and tubbs wears some seriously weird clothes in this one.Some nice scenery here and there though and there's a bit of action to keep it plodding along.Still weak though 4/10

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vicenarc

I give this episode a generous 7. But mostly in part of Rico's assignment with the DiMarco and Pendrosa clans. I just found that Sonny's reunion with his son and ex wife lacked the emotional impact that their last meet up produced.

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Tony D.

I liked the wedding & shootout. Maria had her hooks out for Tubbs from the start. I thought Tubbs outfits were pretty cool, except for the busy Tux jacket & busy shirt. The black jacket & white shirt with scarf looked cool. Crockett looked scruffy most of the time. His kid, Billy had a better haircut than he did! Billy's lines were delivered kind of stiffly, but I liked the attempt Sonny made to be a dad to Billy, finally. Castillo showed a lot of compassion for Crockett when he let him take the time off. My favorite line was Tubbs' reaction to the oldest son, : " Your word, I'll take the 100 Grand!" I played that back about 5 times. :D Maria was a real "black widow" with a scorpion on her neck to boot! Rico tried to resist her, but was weak! I also liked the ending, & the looks C & T gave each other when they considered a normal life & their " Nah!" I give it 7.5 for the father & son interaction & Tubbs' 100 Grand remark. I raised my score to an 8 for this poll.

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BlackJack

Decent episode. A bit too 'soapy' at times but it's not as frequent as season 4. 6.5/10 for me

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MrsEvanFreed

In hindsight, part of this was Tubbs trapped in a bad telanovela.And Sonny's snoozefest family drama.4/10

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Matt5

Enjoyed this - nice to see Sonny off duty - brought more depth to the character.Maria was hot - Tubbss outfits were good yet strange - big black boots !Overall good with a lovely scene on the boat at the end of the episode between C&T.:D:thumbsup:

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ViceFanMan

Awesome beginning...with the wedding and the wild-west style shootout! :thumbsup: However, Tubbs always seemed to have his little 38 while everyone else had machine guns or bigger! :) Some things 'ya just gotta' love with "MV". ;)Maria definitely had her plans and carried them out with a deadly, black widow-style coldness...except when it came to Rico. She really did seem to love him...or who she thought he was. But, as with most of Tubbs' women (as well as Crockett's for that matter)...they always turn out to be naughty femme fatales (or whack-jobs...can we say Valerie!). :pI love the actor Miguel Ferrer and have seen him in tons of stuff...but I thought it was really cool to learn that his brother, Rafael Ferrer, played Carlos...his character's cousin! Both of their characters (Ramon and Carlos) were crazy but interesting to watch...but it was somewhat humorous that neither realized how deadly and "serious" Maria was...and both were taken care of by her.I liked the fashion, or clothes, in this one...even Crockett and his son Billy's clothes were true 80's/early 90's! :thumbsup: I loved it that Crockett actually took the time off from a case to help his son...as a caring father would! :clap: The scenes between Sonny and Billy were heart-felt and funny. However, this would be the last time we ever see Billy and his mother Caroline. :cry:I especially loved the scenes between Castillo and Crockett when he asked for the time off to see Billy! That truly felt "real" and a time when not only Sonny and Castillo understood each other...but that DJ and EJO were able to see eye-to-eye for a scene and what it needed. :clap:I also liked it that Tubbs was able to handle a case superbly without Crockett...as the reverse has been done as well. With assistance from Castillo and Gina he was able to get the job done. But, as with Sonny too, his one problem was getting too caught up with a bad-girl. :rolleyes:Overall I love the action, plot, and acting...I gave this a strong 8! :thumbsup:P.S. Somehow along the line I was able to get a hold of an original NBC airing of this episode--that includes the original commercial bumpers, and voice-overs for what was next or on during the next week, during the ending credits. It's always fun to watch first my DVD of this one...then the tape of the original airing. :D

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Matt5

Fine episode - nice to see Belinda Montgomery again .:D:thumbsup::cool::D

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ViceFanMan

Awesome beginning...with the wedding and the wild-west style shootout! :thumbsup: However, Tubbs always seemed to have his little 38 while everyone else had machine guns or bigger! :) Some things 'ya just gotta' love with "MV". ;)Maria definitely had her plans and carried them out with a deadly, black widow-style coldness...except when it came to Rico. She really did seem to love him...or who she thought he was. But, as with most of Tubbs' women (as well as Crockett's for that matter)...they always turn out to be naughty femme fatales (or whack-jobs...can we say Valerie!). :pI love the actor Miguel Ferrer and have seen him in tons of stuff...but I thought it was really cool to learn that his brother, Rafael Ferrer, played Carlos...his character's cousin! Both of their characters (Ramon and Carlos) were crazy but interesting to watch...but it was somewhat humorous that neither realized how deadly and "serious" Maria was...and both were taken care of by her.I liked the fashion, or clothes, in this one...even Crockett and his son Billy's clothes were true 80's/early 90's! :thumbsup: I loved it that Crockett actually took the time off from a case to help his son...as a caring father would! :clap: The scenes between Sonny and Billy were heart-felt and funny. However, this would be the last time we ever see Billy and his mother Caroline. :cry:I especially loved the scenes between Castillo and Crockett when he asked for the time off to see Billy! That truly felt "real" and a time when not only Sonny and Castillo understood each other...but that DJ and EJO were able to see eye-to-eye for a scene and what it needed. :clap:I also liked it that Tubbs was able to handle a case superbly without Crockett...as the reverse has been done as well. With assistance from Castillo and Gina he was able to get the job done. But, as with Sonny too, his one problem was getting too caught up with a bad-girl. :rolleyes:Overall I love the action, plot, and acting...I gave this a strong 8! :thumbsup:P.S. Somehow along the line I was able to get a hold of an original NBC airing of this episode--that includes the original commercial bumpers, and voice-overs for what was next or on during the next week, during the ending credits. It's always fun to watch first my DVD of this one...then the tape of the original airing. :D

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Vice Immersion

...And Tubbs' and Crockett's passion for the job erodes a little further.

 

The deterioration and backstabbing of the Pendroza family was similar to the family in "Hostile Takeover" except it was led by group of assassins who had their parents tortured by the drug lord family.  I kind of had a sneaking suspicion halfway into the episode that Maria had more to do with family turmoil since she was falling so quickly with Tubbs, and didn't want to leave, or at least distance herself from the Pendroza family somewhat considering the drug connections.

 

But what was more interesting was the plot with Crockett in having to fly to Atlanta (I'm presuming) to see Billy.  I enjoyed how it drew upon the cumulative experiences Crockett had endured when Crockett was about to tell Caroline that he was too busy to see Billy, how the scene subtly reminded the audience of the events of "Child's Play", and with his discussion with Castillo, also reminded the audience just how much Crockett had endured (specifically the loss of Caitlin and the Sonny Burnett arc) since we last saw Billy in "Like A Hurricane".  The line how Crockett felt that he felt he was letting people down, seemed to apply in many areas in his life (not only with his son Billy, but his co-workers and the law when he became Sonny Burnett, and his former wife Caitlin by helping Hackman go free).  It was nice to see Castillo slightly thawing his stern demeanor, but after May Ying leaving Castillo, and especially after the events of "Borrasca" revealing some parallel struggles both he and Crockett could relate to, it's more evident to see as to how it would slowly head in that direction.  Plus, it the show gave us a little more into Crockett's youth (having an older brother) that we haven't really known much about (except in "Bad Timing").

 

The episode still holds that elusive, tantalizing allure of domestic simplicity and stability for both Tubbs and Crockett, and it certainly came on stronger with another love interest of Tubbs being killed, and Crockett witnessing how far his ex-wife has progressed into her new married life and how distant he is from his son (reflecting how things could have been for him), but for now, it hasn't completely seduced them yet to give up their badges.  :p

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Noggie

I haven't watched this since it originally aired so I'll have to watch it on dvd. However, I always remembered the ending with the guys talking on the boat because that felt like such a throwback to season one to me. Somewhere, they stopped socializing & everything became work. That, along with the increasing focus on Crockett, really threw the feel of the show out of whack.

What's crazy to me is watching that final scene, it's hard to believe it's only been two years since the season 3 fashions & only 5 years since they started working together. I get the whole burned out thing but it would have played better a few more years down the road. It's like Vice was on some accelerated clock. They just seemed so much older than season one.

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Jerry B.

What's crazy to me is watching that final scene, it's hard to believe it's only been two years since the season 3 fashions & only 5 years since they started working together. I get the whole burned out thing but it would have played better a few more years down the road. It's like Vice was on some accelerated clock. They just seemed so much older than season one.

 

They were the 80s, pal. An amazing, joyful, accelerated decade. That's it.

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vicegirl85

.But what was more interesting was the plot with Crockett in having to fly to Atlanta (I'm presuming) to see Billy. 

 

Most people do seem to believe Caroline and Billy (as well as Caroline's new husband, Bob) were living in Atlanta.  But I clearly recall that Sonny went to Ocala (FL) to see Billy during the Season 4 episode Child's Play.  So I think that while Caroline may have initially moved to Atlanta after leaving Sonny(perhaps her family was there), she later returned to Florida so Billy could be closer to his dad--just in case Sonny decided to take time off to see his son.  Ocala is quite a long way from Miami, though--she makes the comment "You must have driven all night" when Crockett arrives at her house in Child's Play,   In To Have and To Hold, I assumed she was still living in Ocala.

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Remington

I like this episode. Mainly because of the scenes between Crockett and Billy.

The plot with the Pedroza family was good but kinda had a been there done that feeling. That being said I love the opening. The scenery, music, and shootout was all perfect.

This episode included some godawful fashion for Tubbs.

Maria was cute.

Lol i think I'm getting burnt out on these reviews right along with Crockett and Tubbs.

8/10

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Sea-light

The great difference between Sonny's and Rico's personal lives in this episode makes me angry. Why Sonny can visit his son when he wants and Rico not? Where the hell is his baby? And the next love is killed. Why Mann doesn't love Rico as he loves Sonny?! I don't like that.

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