OBAMA's POLLS DROP AGAIN!

[DJAngel]

Give me a break. 11 months, and Obama is supposed to fix what Stupid did to this country for 8 years

[COOPER&BURNETT]

OBAMA has already outspent what ALL U.S. Presidents (that's Bush, and all the other presidents combined) have, and really with nothing to show for it.At some point, one has to stop blaming everything on Bush, as it's the new president that has given us an economic stimulous package that we now owe to the Chinese for generations, and generations with nothing to show for it.Can't pass the buck with Bush on that. That is OBAMA's doing.....and he's STILL spending!!!You don't save the U.S. money by spending it into the trillions. P.S. your taxes witll be going up.

[COOPER&BURNETT]

http://www.gotchamediablog.com/2009/12/hugo-chavez-calls-obama-devil.html

[timm525]

Hello .WS Members!Historically speaking topics of religion or politics like this one are a very slippery slope for any board, .ws included.I know that they are not high on Ferrariman's list either. As he has been away from the board for a while taking care of some family business, I have been watching this topic for him.Up to now this thread has remained civil, but as more and more members chime in on this, we all have to be very, very careful as to what we post on this one. One post made in poor taste can be enough to make the house of cards come tumbling down on us and start members fighting with each other as they have different view points they believe in.So my suggestion to all that participate in this one, please be very careful when posting and choose your words wisely. This is a dangerous thread. It will remain open as long as all involved in posting remain civil and courteous to the other members.If this thread starts to lose it's objectivity here, and members start fighting over who is right and who is wrong, and who did what when they were in office and what has the other guy done... I will have to lock it on Ferrariman's behalf if he is not around at that time.So let's keep this on a professional level and remain respectful to your fellow members even if you don't agree with what they may have said. Let's be careful or else F-man will get out the first and then this topic will be removed from the board. :eek:Thanks,Tim

[Tony D.]

Hey Tim, For a couple of days I wanted to add my 2 cents on this Topic, but I refrained from doing so since 3 Subjects are not good to bring up....religion, politics and .org........so I'll keep my remarks to myself!

[Ferrariman]

Tony, as Tim posted before, religion & politics are always touchy subjects but as long as it stays civil, please feel free to post your opinions on the topic.I've dealt with a lot of this back on the other site where certain members were, shall we say, a bit more antagonistic? A topic like this one was the perfect chance for the troublemakers to crawl out from under the woodwork and start trouble. Well, the troublemakers are not here and I'd like to think that .ws members have more class and respect for one another. Hopefully we can prove it by continuing a civil discussion. If not, it's locked.Thanks Tim for minding the store

[Richie Rich]

... I wanted to add my 2 cents on this Topic' date=' but I refrained ... so I'll keep my remarks to myself! [/quote']Tony - please don't take the easy way out. All great Americans speak boldly, express their opinions openly, demand change when it is needed, and openly rebuke those who would hurt America or change it for the worse. The history lesson we all know is that whenever a great American did this, it was always the right thing to do - and it is still the right thing to do to this day.“ I believe there are more instances of theabridgement of the freedom of the people bygradual and silent encroachments of those inpower, than by violent and sudden usurpations…This danger ought to be wisely guarded against.”- James Madison Think that Barack Obama's ideas about "redistribution of income" is a good idea? Abraham Lincoln knew that it went against the ideals of America:“Property is the fruit of labor. Property is desirable,is a positive good in the world. That some should berich shows that others may become rich and henceis just encouragement to industry and enterprise.Let not him who is houseless pull down the house ofanother, but let him labor diligently and build onefor himself, thus by example assuring that his ownshall be safe from violence… I take it that it is bestfor all to leave each man free to acquire property asfast as he can. Some will get wealthy. I don’t believein a law to prevent a man from getting rich; it woulddo more harm than good.” -Abraham Lincolnhttp://www.dyersville.lib.ia.us/images/lookingback/AbrahamLincoln.jpg/image“ The utopian schemes of leveling [redistributionof wealth], and a community of goods [centralownership of all the means of production anddistribution], are as visionary and impracticableas those which vest all property in the Crown.[These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in ourgovernment, unconstitutional.” -Samuel Adams"Give Me Liberty Or Give Me Death"Patrick Henry, March 23, 1775. "In the End, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.”"The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy. The true neighbor will risk his position, his prestige and even his life for the welfare of others."'And I've looked over, and I've seen the promised land . . . So I'm happy tonight. I'm not worried about anything. I'm not fearing any man."- Martin Luther King, Jr., "I've Been to the Mountaintop" If we say we will keep our remarks to our self, and hide our head in the sand, we have no recourse after our freedoms have been taken away. We brought it upon ourselves. Speak boldly, my friend.

[COOPER&BURNETT]

NBC NIGHTLY NEWS reports that OBAMA's polling numbers are dropping fast.People are having voter's remorse.According to NBC' date=' the WALL STREET JOURNAL's poll shows:Are you confident with the job OBAMA is doing as President?NOT CONFIDENT 54%CONFIDENT 39%Health Care. Is it a good idea?BAD IDEA 47%GOOD IDEA 32%IS AMERICA ON THE WRONG TRACK?WRONG TRACK 55%RIGHT TRACK 47% (when he was elected a few months ago, it was 60% that thought we were on the right track.)AMERICANS VIEW OF THE DEMOCTATIC PARTYNEGATIVELY 45%Looks like the honeymoon is over.[/quote']47% DON'T want health care in the U.S..I'm glad out elected officials listened to us, as they now going ahead with health care. Looks like it's going to happen dispite the fact that in every poll the majority of Americans don't want this. The MAJORITY.Have you heard what's coming up soon? They are going to put forth a bill to give 30 million Illegal aliens amnesty. I'm not making this up.

[Frey]

47% DON'T want health care in the U.S..I'm glad out elected officials listened to us' date=' as they now going ahead with health care. Looks like it's going to happen dispite the fact that in every poll the majority of Americans don't want this. The MAJORITY.Have you heard what's coming up soon? They are going to put forth a bill to give 30 million Illegal aliens amnesty. I'm not making this up.[/quote']If there's a silver lining in all of this, good men like Lt. Col Alan West (Ret.) will get elected next year. He's running in Florida's 22nd Congressional district that goes from Jupiter to Ft. Lauderdale. I hadn't heard of him until this Youtube video of him went viral (over 1 million hits). :fireworks:

[COOPER&BURNETT]

No question this bill will hurt the left in the short term Frey, via the 2010 elections as a major overhaul is inevitable, but at what cost to the nation in the long term?

[Frey]

Hopefully not as big as we think, Coop. There's no way that MANDATING every American be forced by the Federal Government to purchase Health insurance or face a fine and/or jail time is constitutional. Even left-wing congressman Dennis Kucinich agrees with me on that!

[Frey]

His poll numbers are dropping faster than Tiger's shorts!:clap:

They'll drop even faster if he continues to refer to Al-Qaeda as "A far-reaching network of violence and hatred." :birdie:And now far-left liberal professors are angry at him:http://www.counterpunch.org/green12212009.html :clap:

[Sonny-Burnett]

For any of you who care to express your views to your congressmen on healthcare or any other subject I found this to be a useful website:http://www.congressmerge.com/onlinedb/index.htm

[BORNO]

I wish they'd put some stimulus money toward a Miami Vice re-union movie with DJ & PMT!

Now that is funny, but I agree!!!! After reading all these replys I like this place even more, keep up the good work!!!!:thumbsup:

[COOPER&BURNETT]

This just in.OBAMA's polls drop, yet again.WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama's national standing has slipped to a new low after his victory on the historic health care overhaul, even in the face of growing signs of economic revival, according to the latest Associated Press-GfK poll.The survey shows the political terrain growing rockier for Obama and congressional Democrats heading into midterm elections, boosting Republican hopes for a return to power this fall.Just 49 percent of people now approve of the job Obama's doing overall, and less than that — 44 percent — like the way he's handled health care and the economy. Last September, Obama hit a low of 50 percent in job approval before ticking a bit higher. His high-water mark as president was 67 percent in February of last year, just after he took office.The news is worse for other Democrats. For the first time this year, about as many Americans approve of congressional Republicans as Democrats — 38 percent to 41 percent — and neither has an edge when it comes to the party voters want controlling Congress. Democrats also have lost their advantage on the economy; people now trust both parties equally on that, another first in 2010.Roughly half want to fire their own congressman.Adding to Democratic woes, people have grown increasingly opposed to the health care overhaul in the weeks since it became law; 50 percent now oppose it, the most negative measure all year. People also have a dim view of the economy though employers have begun to add jobs, including 162,000 in March. Just as many people rated the economy poor this month — 76 percent — as did last July.And it could get worse for Democrats: One-third of those surveyed consider themselves tea party supporters, and three-quarters of those people are overwhelmingly Republicans or right-leaning independents. That means they are more likely to vote with the GOP in this fall's midterms, when energized base voters will be crucial amid the typical low turnout of a non-presidential election year.With the electorate angry, Republicans enthusiastic and Democrats seemingly less so, Obama's party increasingly fears it could lose control of the House, if not the Senate, in his first midterms. The GOP, conversely, is emboldened as voters warm to its opposition to much of the president's agenda.On the minds of Democrats and Republicans alike: the Democratic bloodletting in 1994, when the GOP seized control of Congress two years after Bill Clinton was elected president. But the less-dispiriting news for Democrats is that it's only April — a long way to November in politics.Still, persuading change-minded voters to keep the status quo will be no easy task given that most people call details of the health care overhaul murky and that the unemployment rate is unlikely to fall below 9 percent by November.The key for Obama and his party: firing up moribund Democratic voters while appealing to independents who are splitting their support after back-to-back national elections in which they tilted heavily toward Democrats and caused the power shift.None of that will be easy.Just listen to independent voters who typically decide elections."He's moving the country into a socialized country," Jim Fall, 73, of Wrightwood, Calif., said of the president. He worries that Obama is too "radical left wing" and that government has grown too big, saying: "He is constantly in our lives more and more and more and more."Fall was just as down on the Democratic-controlled Congress: "They're horrible. I think all they do is talk," he said, adding that Republicans acted no differently when they had power: "Just spend and spend and spend."In Spokane, Wash., Angela Hardin, 43, was just as disapproving."I don't like what's going on," the small business owner said. "He is just making a huge mess out of everything. ... He's all over the map. It's like, 'Slow down! Breathe! Think!'"As for Democrats in Congress, she said: "I'm not happy with them." Republicans, she said, may be better. But she's really ambivalent toward any of them: "It's just beyond me how they can sit up there with all of their college degrees and fight like they were in middle school." The new poll findings also show: • Equal percentages of Democrats — 87 percent — approve of Obama's job performance as Republicans — 88 percent — disapprove. Independents are about split, 50 percent disapprove to 47 percent approve. And, when it comes to Congress, 91 percent of Republicans, 65 percent of independents and even 51 percent of Democrats disapprove. • The tea party coalition remains fuzzy to most people; only 16 percent say they know a great deal or a lot about this political phenomenon born a year ago. Obama remains a polarizing figure, as does Congress. "He's trying to do what he said we was going to do," said David Jeter of Los Angeles, 51, who votes Democratic and co-owns a lighting business. Jeter credits Congress with passing health care but wonders: "Now what will they do? ... I watch Congress with bated breath, but I don't expect that anything is going to radically alter my life." The AP-GfK Poll was conducted April 7-12, 2010 by GfK Roper Public Affairs and Media. It involved interviews with 1,001 adults nationwide on both landline and cellular telephones. It had a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4.3 percentage points. ___ Associated Press Polling Director Trevor Tompson, AP News Survey Specialist Dennis Junius and AP Writers Alan Fram, Ann Sanner and Natasha Metzler contributed to this report.

[COOPER&BURNETT]

"Just 49 percent of people now approve of the job Obama's doing overall, and less than that — 44 percent — like the way he's handled health care and the economy.""Adding to Democratic woes, people have grown increasingly opposed to the health care overhaul in the weeks since it became law; 50 percent now oppose it, the most negative measure all year."Looks like even though the President told us we would watch the health care debate on C-SPAN live, it never took place.He even said we would have a change to read it 72 hours before it passed. That never happened, as the first lady told us, "you can read it when we pass it." Looks like people are reading it now for the first time, and the quotes above are showing that people are finally waking up.

[Frey]

Even on liberal Martha's Vineyard (where I live) I've seen a "Don't Tread On Me" flag outside of someone's house. I was shocked, because I know who he is and thought he was a liberal since he supported Robert Reich (Very liberal fmr. Labor Secretary under Clinton) for MA governor a few years back.The tide is turning!

[DJWannaB]

Then theres that Arizona thing. Its the second time Obama has critisized police/laws publicly. What other president has ever done that? None.

[Frey]

Yep. And then, don't forget that "At some point....I think you've made enough money..."

Who's the arbiter of that? :rolleyes:How about this: At some point, GOVERNMENT has taxed and spent enough money. Money that doesn't even belong to them in the first place!

[Gary1911A1]

Who's the arbiter of that? :rolleyes:How about this: At some point, GOVERNMENT has taxed and spent enough money. Money that doesn't even belong to them in the first place!

I was in Quincy Ill. enjoying myself at a pistol match when he made that remark. You can bet he consider himself and his buddies (fellow marxist) to be exempt from that. People at the hotel were discussing how much his trip was costing us just so he could hear himself talk.

[mjcmmv]

Obama's Plls Drop Again

Hey Tim' date=' For a couple of days I wanted to add my 2 cents on this Topic, but I refrained from doing so since 3 Subjects are not good to bring up....religion, politics and .org........so I'll keep my remarks to myself! [/quote']So true, Tony. I keep typing replies to some of these posts but think better of it and delete...I repsect everyone's opinion, whether I agree with it or not, but this is a site where I come to escape, not debate! Peace!

[Richie Rich]

Have you seen the video where the Chosen One comments about his falling approval ratings? To paraphrase, he said he doesn't give a sh__, and that he thinks it is funny. He then goes on to insult another guest at the dinner. What a guy!

[DJAngel]

"That's Politics.";)

[COOPER&BURNETT]

47% DON'T want health care in the U.S..I'm glad out elected officials listened to us' date=' as they now going ahead with health care. Looks like it's going to happen dispite the fact that in every poll the majority of Americans don't want this. The MAJORITY.Have you heard what's coming up soon? They are going to put forth a bill to give 30 million Illegal aliens amnesty. I'm not making this up.[/quote']Heeeeeeere it comes! :thumbsdown:Don't say I didn't tell you so. OBAMA: BEGIN WORK THIS YEAR ON IMMIGRATION REFORM WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama said Wednesday he wants to begin work this year on legislation overhauling the nation's immigration system, firming up his commitment on a key priority for Latino voters and lawmakers.Obama's comments at a Cinco de Mayo celebration at the White House reaffirmed his long-held support for immigration reform. He went a step further than he has in the past by calling for the work to begin this year.Latino groups have been calling for Obama to deliver on his campaign promise of making immigration reform a top priority, with some activists and lawmakers in the Congressional Hispanic Caucus complaining he wasn't doing enough.Obama clouded the issue last week by saying "there may not be an appetite" in Congress to deal with another hot-button issue immediately after grueling fights over health care and financial regulation.There also may not be enough time left on the legislative calendar to take up a contentious issue with midterm elections looming in November, but by making the commitment Obama may at least be able to tell Hispanic groups he tried.Obama acknowledged immigration reform would be difficult to achieve and would require bipartisan support — something that's lacking in the Senate right now. And he made no commitment to finishing the process this year.But he said it was the only way to deal with the nation's immigration problems."The way to fix our broken immigration system is through common-sense comprehensive immigration reform," the president said."I want to begin work this year and I want Democrats and Republicans to work with me."Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., who's up for re-election in a state with a growing Latino population, also recently said he wants to tackle immigration overhaul this year, although pending energy legislation — another divisive issue — would likely come first.Reid last week released draft immigration legislation with Sens. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., and Robert Menendez, D-N.J., that calls for more federal enforcement agents and other border security-tightening benchmarks before illegal immigrants could become legal U.S. residents.Obama praised that proposal Wednesday. But the one Republican who's been willing to work with Democrats on the issue recently, Sen. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, has balked at moving ahead this year.The focus is on the Senate because House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., has made clear that the Senate must act first on the immigration issue before she would force her Democrats into another tough vote.Again Wednesday, Obama denounced the law passed in Arizona that requires police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they're in the country illegally. Some fear the law could lead to racial profiling, and Obama said federal officials were monitoring it for possible civil rights violations.The president cited the Arizona law as a reason for action on immigration legislation."Make no mistake, our immigration system is broken, and after so many years in which Washington has failed to meet its responsibilities, Americans are right to be frustrated. ... But the answer isn't to undermine fundamental principles that define us as a nation " Obama said."Comprehensive reform — that's how we're going to solve this problem," he said.

[Viceman Cometh]

Fear of a black planet.