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Episode #43 "Trust Fund Pirates"

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i like the episode not so good i give 4 points. i am a fan of the german community.

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Trust Fund Pirates understands it to cover a serious mainproblem of Florida in the 80s - namely smuggling via sea - with typical VICE elements and especially excellent humour by Sonny and Rico, Stan and Larry, Noogie and Hook and Jumbo.:DAdditionally it shows wonderful colours like the sunset scene or when Jackson's plane takes off.:happy::clap:It appears to me as if VICE wants to carry the pastel-look to extremes before they it changes the style in Season 3. The teaser with all these fantastic Miami pictures, a hyped Hook and the pirates is absolutely cool! I wonder about the relatively brutal scenes on the attacked boat where blood smeared dead bodies lie around - fortunately they didn't get cut!Gary Cole as Jackson is very cool. He excellently replaces Jimmy (aka Glenn Frey) because he' completely out of touch with the real world - just like Jimmy!:)I'm really fond of the modern pirates with their weapons and extravagant clothes. There's no difference between wooden-leg-pirates and the modern ones - except the fact that modern ones hunt for cocaine or crack...I especially love the final scene when Sonny and Jackson talk about Jackson's new identity. Both are looking really cool - Sonny with a Mac 10 and Jackson wearing Aviator shades!:cool:Trust Fund Pirates offers various music.Randy Newman's Miami, Simply Red's Heaven and Steve Winwood's Still In The Game are my favourites.:radio:10 of 10 points.

I really like this review and it pretty much sums it up! I like and enjoy this episode and the music, fashion, colors, the "gritty"/tragic action, the guest stars (Richard Belzer, Gary Cole, etc...) all helped make this one, one to watch! :clap:However, despite all those aspects there was also something about this episode that was...I don't know, missing. I like it okay, but it just seems like it didn't quite mesh together right or something. I gave it a 6.

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When I watched this when it first aired, I didn't care for it. I always taped episodes & then if I didn't like the episode I taped over it. I didn't keep this one. I do remember my mother saying the scene where they're at the arcade was them showing Crockett had quit smoking.

I watched it last night and I actually enjoyed it!! It wasn't great but it was a fun episode & like has been mentioned, had some great dialogue. Genuinely funny moments. I have one question though. Who was the body in the pool in the closing scene? The shootout with the Pirates wasn't near a pool. They fell in water but not a pool. Maybe I missed something.

7 out of 10 for me.

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ACTOR GARY COLE ORIGINALLY CAST AS SONNY CROCKETTI do recall reading from a paperback book about the show that Gary Cole was seriously considered for the lead role. Does anyone else recall this and were there any others that were in the running ?

 

I don't think he was originally cast as Sonny Crockett--but I remember reading that book too, and Gary Cole was one of the many actors who auditioned for the part.  DJ has said in a print interview that "every swinging d---" in Hollywood auditioned for the part.

 

Ok guys, you'll see my reviews getting more in depth as MV appraoches its zenith which is season 3 for me. Can already feel the gravity of it in late season 2. Anyway, I like this epiosde and rate it a 9. Kind of a continuation of "Smuggler's Blues" with a pilot trying to get out the game theme, and the timely reference to Jimmy from season 1 was welcome. Good to see Gary Cole in an early pre-Midnight Caller role too. Nice to see Noogy in season 2. Jumbo was as annoying as hell and kept saying man all the time and looked stoned 24/7. (snipped)

 

Agree, there was a darker tone to this ep, in spite of the sunny Miami tourism bureau shots ;) and the humor (my favorite:  Crockett's expression as Tubbs said:  "Go on, shoot him.")  The "trust find pirates" were sociopaths, who had no feelings for their victims as human beings, and displayed a very ugly kind of anti-Latino prejudice.  The contrast of that ugliness and their coldblooded killing with the beautiful Miami scenes was chilling to me.

 

Gary Cole as Jackson was very good, too.  First, I liked the way he was connected with Jimmy (from Smuggler's Blues).  At first when he is shown boarding the smugglers' boat and discovering the bodies, he seems almost as callous as the pirates.  But as the episode goes on, his true humanity comes to the forefront. Although he thought Crockett and Tubbs were smugglers right up until the end, he still tried to stop the pirates from killing them--when he could have removed himself from danger and ended up with all the money he could want by joining them.

 

Some dialog I thought was very foreshadowing of C&T's future:

 Jackson:  "I'm tired of losing things."

Tubbs:  "Losing things comes with the territory."

Jackson:  "I want to leave the territory."

 

I also loved Crockett's continuously bored and cynical facial expressions during the scene at the Arc Light with Jackson's girlfriend. They made a big deal about the age gap in this episode between Jackson and Lani, but in actual fact Cole was 30 when this episode was made and Nicole Fosse was 23!

 

Crockett's expression was pretty funny during the Arc Light segment!  And I guess Jackson was supposed to be a bit older, while Lani at one point mentioned her age and she was (I think) 20 or 21--would be coming into her inheritance soon, but did not have full access to the money yet.  She did act more like a 15-year-old!

 

Overall, I didn't think much of the episode initially, but it grew on me the longer I watched and the more I thought about it.  I will rate it a 7. 

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I agree with the majority who say that this episode is enjoyable due to its scenery, fashion, and music.

One standout is the scene between Skip and Jackson at the crack house. Extra point for the Lynyrd Skynrd song.

However, my favorite is the scene inAirplane Hell. "Shoot em" made me laugh.

It would've been cool if Glenn Frey came back for this one.

7/10

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Just watched this one again...perhaps this has been asked and answered before somewhere...but does anyone know what the abandoned place was, that was the "junkie" house? Was it an old hotel or house somewhere? It looked too "real" & elaborate to be a set that was made up to look like an old abandoned druggie lair. Just curious! :cool:

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the miami vice wiki lists it as the Biscaya House. I think it was a hotel since demolished.

 

 

I love this episode ! especially the scenes on the water !!

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11 hours ago, ViceFanMan said:

Just watched this one again...perhaps this has been asked and answered before somewhere...but does anyone know what the abandoned place was, that was the "junkie" house? Was it an old hotel or house somewhere? It looked too "real" & elaborate to be a set that was made up to look like an old abandoned druggie lair. Just curious! :cool:

Yes it was the Biscaya Hotel and was demolished not long after filming - was located on West Avenue by the Macarthur Causeway in Miami Beach:hippie:

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1 hour ago, AzVice said:

the miami vice wiki lists it as the Biscaya House. I think it was a hotel since demolished.

 

 

I love this episode ! especially the scenes on the water !!

Here it is in 1981 - you get a nice view of it in the teaser of Season 1s "Nobody Lives Forever " in 1985 as the punks head over the bridge in the car:hippie:

Image result for biscaya hotel miami beach

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20 minutes ago, Matt5 said:

Here it is in 1981 - you get a nice view of it in the teaser of Season 1s "Nobody Lives Forever " in 1985 as the punks head over the bridge in the car:hippie:

Image result for biscaya hotel miami beach

Oh, ok, that's why the name sounded familiar...it was built in the 20s and originally was the Floridian Hotel--for the rich and elite. I think Capone liked to stay there in the 20s & 30s. It later closed during WWII, and reopened after as the Biscaya Hotel...but could never recapture its elegance.

However, I'm not sure that pic is from 1981...I think the hotel was officially condemned and shut down in the 70s (the last several years it was mainly used as almost a half-way house). 

The beginning scene of Smugglers Blues--where C&T, Castillo & Trudy, and a DEA agent meet in an abandoned hotel was also filmed here. This makes sense now! This hotel and the Blue Waters (The Maze and French Twist) were both torn down in mid to late 1987.

Thanks, Matt5!! :thumbsup:

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On 3/30/2012 at 8:13 PM, The real McCarthy said:

ACTOR GARY COLE ORIGINALLY CAST AS SONNY CROCKETTI do recall reading from a paperback book about the show that Gary Cole was seriously considered for the lead role. Does anyone else recall this and were there any others that were in the running ?

Yes I remember something about this - but not originally - later in Season 3 when DJ and Producers were trying to work out his salary for the beginning of Season 3. 

It was said that if there was agreement - Gary Cole could have been offered the role of Crockett:hippie:

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