Tubbs' Caddy

[ViceFanMan]

Yeah' date=' as much as I love the Aston V8 as a car, it wasn't a good fit for Tubbs' character. Although I thought it went well with the undercover persona he was adopting when he drove it in Walk-Alone.I seem to remember the Caddy was used a lot in Shadow in the Dark. In fact I think it was the only car that did, I'm pretty sure Crockett's Ferrari was AWOL.[/quote']Yeah...the Aston just wasn't the car for Tubbs. I personally don't care for them either...however, I love the vintage one used in the James Bond movies. That is sort of 007's car for sure! ;)I think you're right...the Caddy was mainly used in "Shadow in the Dark"! I think Crockett was so out-of-it in that episode, that he didn't do much driving. But, I always love it when the Caddy is shown in any episode!

I dont know' date=' the aston wasnt the first car they screwed around with having tubbs use instead of the caddie. Tubbs was riding in that white merc in lombard of which youngman owns one of[img']http://www.miami-vice.ws/images/KDPics/car25.jpg then the aston in S3 and another Pimped up, or rather muscled up Merc with a MR big licence plate from streetwise with a hood bulge and speedster hoops on it at 1:00

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maybe that's why they screwed around with the colors of the car, they were trying to make it seem more exotic as blue silver isnt that special. as i've seen a few cars in that kind of color combo over the years, this being the latest

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which I think is utterly beautiful and better looking than a DB5 in Burch silver with a blue grey interior in that combo but it's worth noting that about the paint color that blue green metalic one from whatever works however......http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7767&d=1365143845I've only seen it on viceWith the Testarossa in shadow of the dark it was used once, just in a dream sequence. the rest of the episode was more or less with them in the blue silver caddie most of it though, hell seemed like Crockett was in general commuting with Tubbs in the caddie in that episode.making me wonder maybe if he let the others hop a ride with him off screen lol, it does have space for 5 people and a trunk to match after all.

Yeah, it seemed though that whenever Tubbs used a different car other than his Caddy, it was for some one-time undercover role--other than say "Cooper". When he drove another car it was only in that one episode for that one part...so speaking within the show, so-to-speak, I think there were some assignments that Tubbs didn't want to use his Caddy for, for whatever reason. So, the county probably let him use whatver other car he needed for whatever assignment it was.The Maserati in the "MV" color is cool...not Tubbs' car for sure but would be awesome for 007! Again, I still love the Aqua-green/torquoise Caddy best...it just seemed to fit the "MV" color scheme perfectly! And yes...there was room for the rest of the cast without hardly being noticed--Gina & Trudy were secretly in the back seats, while "Switie" and Lar were having a party in the trunk. :pAgain, I think there were at least 2 of the Aqua-green Caddys used...as I've seen one with the white steering wheel, and one with a black steering wheel--like the pic above from IMCDb. The gray-blue Caddy also had an all black steering wheel.

[Kavinsky]

Yeah...the Aston just wasn't the car for Tubbs. I personally don't care for them either...however' date=' I love the vintage one used in the James Bond movies. That is sort of 007's car for sure! ;)I think you're right...the Caddy was mainly used in "Shadow in the Dark"! I think Crockett was so out-of-it in that episode, that he didn't do much driving. But, I always love it when the Caddy is shown in any episode! :clap:Yeah, it seemed though that whenever Tubbs used a different car other than his Caddy, it was for some one-time undercover role--other than say "Cooper". When he drove another car it was only in that one episode for that one part...so speaking within the show, so-to-speak, I think there were some assignments that Tubbs didn't want to use his Caddy for, for whatever reason. So, the county probably let him use whatver other car he needed for whatever assignment it was.The Maserati in the "MV" color is cool...not Tubbs' car for sure but would be awesome for 007! Again, I still love the Aqua-green/torquoise Caddy best...it just seemed to fit the "MV" color scheme perfectly! And yes...there was room for the rest of the cast without hardly being noticed--Gina & Trudy were secretly in the back seats, while "Switie" and Lar were having a party in the trunk. :pAgain, I think there were at least 2 of the Aqua-green Caddys used...as I've seen one with the white steering wheel, and one with a black steering wheel--like the pic above from IMCDb. The gray-blue Caddy also had an all black steering wheel.[/quote']Yeah I think with the show one of the inital ideas was that crockett might have had a choice between rides as well, namely in the pilot scrip ala like they did with the show fastlane a few years ago.which was like a revolving door of old cars to the point of insanity http://www.imcdb.org/movie_320000-Fastlane.htmland I half wonder if like that T/A trans am Tubbs had in the pilot that the camaro from the boat chase was supposed to be his low key ride for him as wellbut tv and movie law states that if you have a fast car you must drive it every day and like a nutball so I guess that never really stuck save for specific situations like the hot rod pick up truck from Stones war, the LTD from the hitlist and the 66 or 67 mustang convertible from smugglers blues he took out an MG withactually with that Maserati its kind of closer to the above caddie than I thought looking at it now, love how he states that they wanted some insane amount of money for some beyond saving DB5 and he finds something better instead.kinda funny though I think that is literally the only Maserati I've ever a 100% really liked, the one after it or even the convertible version just doesnt cut it:which looks like someone glued a step ladder to it with the extra bodywork on the bottom thereactually now that the DB5 is toast http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_488521-Aston-Martin-DB5-1484-R-1964.htmlhe now knows of a faster and better replacement for it lolfunny though that it seems like the only major visual difference between the DB4 to the DB5 is that the front fenders have been rounded off and the headlights replaced with glass covers ala the early E typeswonder why Maserati didnt follow suit with theres thought?anyways nah I seem to remember in El Viejo that the blue grey one was one of the white and black ones and one of the green ones is as well

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unless its all the same car save for the black rimmed oneor they used both cars in that scene, which looking at it and the back and forth between willy looking at the van and back to him would be possibileI mean we dont really see a close up of the two tone one there.

[ViceFanMan]

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT8p0XWzEIc unless its all the same car save for the black rimmed oneor they used both cars in that scene, which looking at it and the back and forth between willy looking at the van and back to him would be possibileI mean we dont really see a close up of the two tone one there.

Yeah, in the original "Pilot" ("Brother's Keeper") I got the idea that Crockett's car would be the Camaro...and I LOVE that chase scene where he's chasing Tubbs in his boat! As for Tubbs' Trans Am...love that car too, but I think it was supposed to be a rental. The hot rod truck, old 67 Mustang, and other cars...including the Aston and Mercedes were all just supposed to be "loaners" from the county or rentals used for whatever purposes needed at the time. I've never really liked Aston Martins, Maseratis, MG's, etc...just not my kind of cars.As for "El Viejo" and the Caddys...I watched that scene from Youtube you provided. Love Depeche Mode...so I love that song along with the action! Anyway, it appears to me they possibly used all 3 Caddys for different parts of that scene, if that makes sense. At one point ol' Willie is driving the aqua-green one with the white steering wheel...then it shows the same scene but from a different angle and suddenly he's driving the aqua-green one with the black steering wheel. Then when he starts slamming into the bad guy's van, it's now the gray-blue one with a black steering wheel! It's like...what the heck? :)The gray or silver-blue one must have been the one that was not in the best shape to begin with, and that's the one they didn't mind "smackin' " around if needed.

[Kavinsky]

appears to me they possibly used all 3 Caddys for different parts of that scene, if that makes sense. At one point ol' Willie is driving the aqua-green one with the white steering wheel...then it shows the same scene but from a different angle and suddenly he's driving the aqua-green one with the black steering wheel. Then when he starts slamming into the bad guy's van, it's now the gray-blue one with a black steering wheel! It's like...what the heck? :)The gray or silver-blue one must have been the one that was not in the best shape to begin with, and that's the one they didn't mind "smackin' " around if needed.

Nah I think when they turn back its the one with the black rim that's blue silver from Nobody lives forever and even in that with the Izzy scene they switch cars atleast oncehttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=20but its hard to tell as they switch so damn much, funny though this is kind of like the situation with the daytona where you could tell what car it is by the interior and the dashPilot car and the survivor, 81 vette - nicer interior, different dash with different door panels Other car, crashed 76 converted into the first daytona replica, long gone - Door panels are different with a black mark on them on the drivers side, look like leather covered stock ones, dash is more square with a different steering column and wood shift knobseen more or less exclusively in whatever works as the neglected daytona, from then on it shows up at odd intervals based on whatever car they put the cameras on.and it seems like the same was going on hereEh with me I always always a pure blooded muscle car guy, with like 2 to 4 exceptions awhile back, like these two but I've kind of opened my horizons to the other carshttp://www.flickr.com/photos/triggerscarstuff/6843678253/as cool is cool and life is too short not to like other things, although with modern ferrari and lambo I'm bored to tears with them nowadaysI mean audi is still making good looking cars, volkswaggen too along with some of the newer BMW's that arent made by Chris Bangler, some of the merc's look really good along with the latest Bentley Wrath they were showing off in road and track recently at the dentist.and that was the first bentley in a long time that doesnt look like an overglorified volkswaggen, aint no bond WO 4 1/2 literor 55 T bird based one thoughhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentley_4%C2%BD_Litrelike he drove in the books of which I've read all of up until Ian diedhttp://www.rathcoombe.net/007/Literary007.htmlbut hey better than nothingSo I dont know what on earth is going on with them although it seems like the nissan people love making there cars look like buck rogers based nightmares anyways

that aint the future, that's the REJECTED future from 10 years ago!you know the pontiac aztek, ring any bells guys? stop making more of them!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Aztekguess they want to start a new line of starbug based cars or something

[ViceFanMan]

from Nobody lives forever and even in that with the Izzy scene they switch cars atleast once[URL">

http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=20but its hard to tell as they switch so damn much' date=' funny though this is kind of like the situation with the daytona where you could tell what car it is by the interior and the dashPilot car and the survivor, 81 vette - nicer interior, different dash with different door panels Other car, crashed 76 converted into the first daytona replica, long gone - Door panels are different with a black mark on them on the drivers side, look like leather covered stock ones, dash is more square with a different steering column and wood shift knobseen more or less exclusively in whatever works as the neglected daytona, from then on it shows up at odd intervals based on whatever car they put the cameras on.and it seems like the same was going on hereEh with me I always always a pure blooded muscle car guy, with like 2 to 4 exceptions awhile back, like these two but I've kind of opened my horizons to the other cars[url'] as cool is cool and life is too short not to like other things, although with modern ferrari and lambo I'm bored to tears with them nowadaysI mean audi is still making good looking cars, volkswaggen too along with some of the newer BMW's that arent made by Chris Bangler, some of the merc's look really good along with the latest Bentley Wrath they were showing off in road and track recently at the dentist.and that was the first bentley in a long time that doesnt look like an overglorified volkswaggen, aint no bond WO 4 1/2 literor 55 T bird based one thoughhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bentley_4%C2%BD_Litrelike he drove in the books of which I've read all of up until Ian diedhttp://www.rathcoombe.net/007/Literary007.htmlbut hey better than nothingSo I dont know what on earth is going on with them although it seems like the nissan people love making there cars look like buck rogers based nightmares anyways

that aint the future, that's the REJECTED future from 10 years ago!you know the pontiac aztek, ring any bells guys? stop making more of them!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_Aztekguess they want to start a new line of starbug based cars or something

Didn't quite understand what you meant by "When they turn back its the one with the black rim that's blue silver"?? Do you mean the black steering wheel? I think there were two of the Caddys that had black steering wheels...at least from what I've been able to see so far this time going through the series, and paying closer attention each time the Caddy shows up.One of those Caddys was an aqua-green one, and the other was the silver-blue one. There was also an aqua-green one with a white steering wheel (that also had small black side-pieces but the majority of the steering wheel was white). From the scene from "El Viejo" I watched, it looks to me like all 3 were used. The one slamming into the van was the silver-blue one...while the other two were used during the highway-driving scenes between the bad guys and Willie.They did this frequently during many episodes though...I've noticed different Caddys being used in the same episode--sometimes during the same scene. "El Viejo" wasn't the only one that did that. There were so many different aspects to the different "Daytonas" used on the show...that I can't keep them all straight! I just know that I think during the Pilot they used a real Daytona. From then on out it was replicas built on chasis' of older Corvettes.I'm not one for foreign cars most of the time...however, I do like older Ferraris ("MV" and "Magnum's" days), Lotus', Porsches, etc... I still prefer older American muscle/sports/even luxury cars (along with some new sports or muscle cars today)...but there are some foreign models that aren't bad.But, for that Pontiac Aztek...to quote the immortal words of Shag & Scoob....ZWIKES!! I just have to ask...what the he** are people thinking when they design those things?? The Aztek and that stupid starbug think have to be the worst SUV's ever designed!

[Kavinsky]

ZWIKES!! I just have to ask...what the he** are people thinking when they design those things?? The Aztek and that stupid starbug think have to be the worst SUV's ever designed!

Yeah black steering wheel, although I'm starting to think that the blue silver one and one of the greenish ones are the same car as Smugglers blues was on today, a Caddie based episode and I sat through all of it naturally.which lovingly showed the deville badge on the back quarter too I might addand I swear the car changes color IN SHOT based on the lighting like its almost a pearlescent paint job and looking at leno's maserati it ALSO changed colors in the lighting it seemedwhen they first pull the car out and take shots of it it looks more blue silver at at 0:32

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yet polished up and shined up after all that work it looks more blue green the rest of the video, not unlike well this lambo color I mentioned to one of the other memebers when talking about the TR that I think it would have looked better in http://www.flickr.com/photos/30221655@N04/3487895857/http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxer/326496739/http://www.flickr.com/photos/bensonpschiu/4056618931/http://www.flickr.com/photos/eccentric_m/6818998990/which is some sort of pearlwonder if the same thing happened there and maybe there was just two caddies, not three like we think there is in some blue green pearl color, plus they did use filters in the latter run of vicemaybe that made it all the harder to pin down just what car is what?Well with the daytonas if they had kept going there would have been 3, they were planning on making another one for the third season but the TR coming online cut that off, plus initally the plan was to have one real daytona, and only the surviving car right now, the 4th daytona replica ever made as its soul stuntcaralthough some sort of damage was done to the one in the pilot reportedly so that fell through, with the real one I meanand the one in one way ticket, the yellow one is also a real one but I believe its a spyder conversion based on a missing aerial antennae on the back and that the seats are missing the headrests when they get the files out of it at the endwhich I've only seen once on all of the daytonas Ive browsed through on finecars.cc plus well there was some changes to the cars throught the Pilot, S1 and S2 and an unintentional one with the grill given what it was made out of and after it left the show, and the replica was used for most of the pilot, any time they were in it or driving it, it was the replica and both had been around long before the show started, as namely they were made in 1980/1981one on a brand new car, the survivor, the 1981 and one on a crashed car for the prototype, a 76 although not intentionally. but there was only two used in the show, with two real ones, one in a cameo role in the pilot, one as plot device in the second to show that the prosecutor and Crockett have similar tastes in cars.with the aztek the sad thing is, it was 7 years too early as if that was made today they would be selling well judging by the fact that this ford made product is still around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Flexsad thing is though alot more cars would look better if they lay off the buck rogers like with this Prototype BMV:from a year ago when it was first made:

to now:

now that its been toned down it and removed those stupid wheels it actually doesnt look half bad, still a little wonky looking from the rear end though

[ViceFanMan]

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rQ_6qk1aFnQ yet polished up and shined up after all that work it looks more blue green the rest of the video, not unlike well this lambo color I mentioned to one of the other memebers when talking about the TR that I think it would have looked better in http://www.flickr.com/photos/30221655@N04/3487895857/http://www.flickr.com/photos/maxer/326496739/http://www.flickr.com/photos/bensonpschiu/4056618931/http://www.flickr.com/photos/eccentric_m/6818998990/which is some sort of pearlwonder if the same thing happened there and maybe there was just two caddies, not three like we think there is in some blue green pearl color, plus they did use filters in the latter run of vicemaybe that made it all the harder to pin down just what car is what?Well with the daytonas if they had kept going there would have been 3, they were planning on making another one for the third season but the TR coming online cut that off, plus initally the plan was to have one real daytona, and only the surviving car right now, the 4th daytona replica ever made as its soul stuntcaralthough some sort of damage was done to the one in the pilot reportedly so that fell through, with the real one I meanand the one in one way ticket, the yellow one is also a real one but I believe its a spyder conversion based on a missing aerial antennae on the back and that the seats are missing the headrests when they get the files out of it at the endwhich I've only seen once on all of the daytonas Ive browsed through on finecars.cc plus well there was some changes to the cars throught the Pilot, S1 and S2 and an unintentional one with the grill given what it was made out of and after it left the show, and the replica was used for most of the pilot, any time they were in it or driving it, it was the replica and both had been around long before the show started, as namely they were made in 1980/1981one on a brand new car, the survivor, the 1981 and one on a crashed car for the prototype, a 76 although not intentionally. but there was only two used in the show, with two real ones, one in a cameo role in the pilot, one as plot device in the second to show that the prosecutor and Crockett have similar tastes in cars.with the aztek the sad thing is, it was 7 years too early as if that was made today they would be selling well judging by the fact that this ford made product is still around http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Flexsad thing is though alot more cars would look better if they lay off the buck rogers like with this Prototype BMV:from a year ago when it was first made:

to now:

now that its been toned down it and removed those stupid wheels it actually doesnt look half bad, still a little wonky looking from the rear end though

Maybe there were only two Caddys...and one's paint job will look different in certain lighting. Don't truly know? I do think there were definitely two--with the steering wheel color differences. The one with the white steering wheel was the aqua-green one, and the one with the black steering wheel was the gray or silver-blue one. I think there are definite differences between the paint jobs too, to be able to tell they were two different cars.But, in a few episodes (I've noticed so far) there really does appear to also be an aqua-green one with a black steering wheel as well. Usually I can tell which Caddy it is by the color...besides the color of the steering wheel. However, perhaps there were only the two and the silver-blue one just looked somewhat aqua in a few shots? I love "Smuggler's Blues", and the showcasing of the fancy cursive "DeVille" on the back fender of Tubbs' Caddy in that one! I might go back and watch that one again too, as I thought I remember it being one where at least two of the Caddys were used--as the steering wheel color changes.As for all your Daytona info...it's awesome and interesting to read! But, again, there was so much that I got "lost" in how many real ones and/or replicas there were, and in which episodes they were used. So, is the real Daytona used the only surviving one left from the show? I thought I read once, and saw pics, of one of the replicas being showcased in some car museum somewhere?? Did Ferrari make them destroy all the replicas?I hate both that Ford and Pontiac SUV! I don't really think they look that much alike...but both are boxy, ugly things with "whacked" out designs!

[Stinger390X]

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This is DEFINITELY Ford "Code F" blue that was offered for many years in the latter part of the sixties up to 1972.Ford' date=' GM and Chrysler had different formulations of colours throughout their eras and no two companies had exact colours that were the same. They may have been similar but for sales reasons formulations were different to give distinction to brand.The reason I know this as I painted cars all throughout the 70's and up as I worked in the collision industry and mixed and matched colours for many years as a painter. Code "F" was my favourite colour to use and I painted many vehicles that I owned that colour. Here are some examples. (please excuse the Fairlanes tone as it has pearl added to the paint ans well as the picture was taken with a Poloroid, so the colour is slightly different as the picture is over thirty years old!)[ATTACH=CONFIG']7819[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]7821[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]7820[/ATTACH]Tubbs caddy was definitely a GM blue and the code was either 29 or 27 (not sure as its been a while for me with those colours?)Gm used to carry over colours for many production years. One example I can think of is white...There were three main ones - Code 10 (Corvettes, very white and clean) Code 11 ( kind of dirty and on the yellow side used on most Chevrolets) and Code 12 ( on the "blue" side and very clean used on Buick and Olds) These three colours were never altered for almost thirty years of production GM's!The Blues were usually coded in the 20's and there were about a dozen that were similar to Tubbs soft metallic blue colour. Sure there were others as well with higher numbers but I am refering to the "carry-over colours" of that era.Chrysler on the other hand was very unique in colour codes and options in the late sixties and early 70's with such unique colours as Plum Crazy and lime green, purples and oranges etc. They went to a whole new level of colours to sell cars.

[Kavinsky]

Maybe there were only two Caddys...and one's paint job will look different in certain lighting. Don't truly know? I do think there were definitely two--with the steering wheel color differences. The one with the white steering wheel was the aqua-green one' date=' and the one with the black steering wheel was the gray or silver-blue one. I think there are definite differences between the paint jobs too, to be able to tell they were two different cars.But, in a few episodes (I've noticed so far) there really does appear to also be an aqua-green one with a black steering wheel as well. Usually I can tell which Caddy it is by the color...besides the color of the steering wheel. However, perhaps there were only the two and the silver-blue one just looked somewhat aqua in a few shots? I love "Smuggler's Blues", and the showcasing of the fancy cursive "DeVille" on the back fender of Tubbs' Caddy in that one! I might go back and watch that one again too, as I thought I remember it being one where at least two of the Caddys were used--as the steering wheel color changes.As for all your Daytona info...it's awesome and interesting to read! But, again, there was so much that I got "lost" in how many real ones and/or replicas there were, and in which episodes they were used. So, is the real Daytona used the only surviving one left from the show? I thought I read once, and saw pics, of one of the replicas being showcased in some car museum somewhere?? Did Ferrari make them destroy all the replicas?I hate both that Ford and Pontiac SUV! I don't really think they look that much alike...but both are boxy, ugly things with "whacked" out designs! [/quote']huh I dont know I just think its weird, ya know I thought it was all the same car throughout smugglers that was used, I dont know I just really wish we knew who was in charge of taking care of the Caddies as I know Carl Roberts was the man who took care of the daytona.you would think the Caddie would have had a similar Shepard so to speak just to get some clarity in this whole matter, after all we dont even know what engine those two or three hadyou know was it the 390 for the green one and a 427 for the blue silver green one? hence why that one was used in more of the driving scenes with the camera equipment bolted to it? which back then must have weighed a considerable amountI mean we are really in the dark about it...With the daytona they used two replicas, car 1 and car 4 of a line of like 5 or 6 cars made by markadian/mcburnie in 1981 (markadian being a grey market importer with exotics to one of the worst states to live in if you hate paperwork and people telling you how to live) to start there own car brand I guess using the vette as the basis hence the name car 1 and car 4and the markadian 350 GTS labeling on the back in the photo of it below, and apparently because of California law the only way they legally could get some extra HP out of it was to put a turbo on the back as your not allowed to modify the engine of a new car in cali, atleast back thenso they did which was removed sometime before vice or during it in S1, it was gone by the time carl was brought in in S1not that they used 4 total and ferrari didnt make them destroy them, probably just write them out of the show in a big way hence the explosion scene but as we found out in the daytona thread it apears to be a model as theres no debris in the reaction shotnote the sunglasses, just a small controled explosionyet theres a ton of debris in the explosion shotplus the daytona weirdly has ferrari arm rests in that shot and bigger rims and tireshttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7828&stc=1&d=1365971044something the replica in the show did NOT have, the replicas had 14 inch 70 spoke rims with 235/60/R15 tires which I found with the calculations is approximately an inch shorter radius and size wise from the real ones http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7824&stc=1&d=1365970951which used 15 inch 60 spoke borrani wire wheels sitting on 215/70/R15's with sometimes an optional 225/70/R15's in the back the latter the car is like the one in the top gear video hadhttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7825&stc=1&d=1365970974which you can tell is latter because of the pop up headlights, which was done from 69/70 onwards till 73'

and also an inch smaller than the rims the corvette's used back then as well weirdly and to give you an idea of how much difference the tire and rim size does to the look of the car look at this one with 16 inch rims sitting on 225/60/R15'shttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0050/index.htmlnow the story with the one at the volo museum,

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Carl Roberts took the crashed damaged 76 car, car 1 before the end of S2 and took it apart to try and make a testarossa stunt car and couldntinstead using a detomaso pantera as the basis given well the TR is midengined, kinda doomed to fail in that regard with the vetteas all of the daytona's appearances in S3 are car 4 the surviving car:http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=2147http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=2149so supposedly he saved the body and dumped the damaged chasis, worn engine and the like and put it, the body on the car that was used in speedzonehttp://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_10093-Ferrari-365-GTS-4-Replica.htmlusing a different car as the basis with a C4 motor in it, that car came into massive disrepair and was bought by the volo museum and they say its the one used on viceyet theres no paperwork or proof its just a it could be story, honestly given the lack of the alfa romeo door handles both cars had I honestly think the only thing that could have been on it from the original car is the yellow zenith wire wheel caps that carl took off of the surviving car and probably put on the speed zone car.the most ironic thing about the volo one is the video they show of it vs the countach, looks to be 90% car 4, not car 1 the car that supposedly is.Well with the ford and the pontiac I ment there equally ugly and if the aztek had come out as late as the flex it probably would have been a hit, sadly.theres a thought, lets thank our lucky stars that despite them pimping it in dark angel with that idiot Tony Dinoso from NCIS in the front seat that it didnt catch on. Really dont understand why people like that guy....

[ViceFanMan]

This is DEFINITELY Ford "Code F" blue that was offered for many years in the latter part of the sixties up to 1972.Ford' date=' GM and Chrysler had different formulations of colours throughout their eras and no two companies had exact colours that were the same. They may have been similar but for sales reasons formulations were different to give distinction to brand.The reason I know this as I painted cars all throughout the 70's and up as I worked in the collision industry and mixed and matched colours for many years as a painter. Code "F" was my favourite colour to use and I painted many vehicles that I owned that colour. Here are some examples. (please excuse the Fairlanes tone as it has pearl added to the paint ans well as the picture was taken with a Poloroid, so the colour is slightly different as the picture is over thirty years old!)Tubbs caddy was definitely a GM blue and the code was either 29 or 27 (not sure as its been a while for me with those colours?)Gm used to carry over colours for many production years. One example I can think of is white...There were three main ones - Code 10 (Corvettes, very white and clean) Code 11 ( kind of dirty and on the yellow side used on most Chevrolets) and Code 12 ( on the "blue" side and very clean used on Buick and Olds) These three colours were never altered for almost thirty years of production GM's!The Blues were usually coded in the 20's and there were about a dozen that were similar to Tubbs soft metallic blue colour. Sure there were others as well with higher numbers but I am refering to the "carry-over colours" of that era.Chrysler on the other hand was very unique in colour codes and options in the late sixties and early 70's with such unique colours as Plum Crazy and lime green, purples and oranges etc. They went to a whole new level of colours to sell cars.[/quote']Thanks for the info! I looked at your pics above and even though they might be old poloroids the colors looks to be too dark for either of Tubbs' Caddys. But, you may be right...his Caddys may very well have been some GM colors. There was more than one, possibly three, and they were different blues/aquas too. Maybe both/all of them were different GM colors?

[ViceFanMan]

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=S92cql0NODI Carl Roberts took the crashed damaged 76 car, car 1 before the end of S2 and took it apart to try and make a testarossa stunt car and couldntinstead using a detomaso pantera as the basis given well the TR is midengined, kinda doomed to fail in that regard with the vetteas all of the daytona's appearances in S3 are car 4 the surviving car:http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=2147http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=2149so supposedly he saved the body and dumped the damaged chasis, worn engine and the like and put it, the body on the car that was used in speedzoneusing a different car as the basis with a C4 motor in it, that car came into massive disrepair and was bought by the volo museum and they say its the one used on viceyet theres no paperwork or proof its just a it could be story, honestly given the lack of the alfa romeo door handles both cars had I honestly think the only thing that could have been on it from the original car is the yellow zenith wire wheel caps that carl took off of the surviving car and probably put on the speed zone car.the most ironic thing about the volo one is the video they show of it vs the countach, looks to be 90% car 4, not car 1 the car that supposedly is.Well with the ford and the pontiac I ment there equally ugly and if the aztek had come out as late as the flex it probably would have been a hit, sadly.theres a thought, lets thank our lucky stars that despite them pimping it in dark angel with that idiot Tony Dinoso from NCIS in the front seat that it didnt catch on. Really dont understand why people like that guy....

I don't know about the engines in the Caddys used? Both could have had the 390 or the 427...or one could have had one, while the other had the other! :rolleyes:It would be awesome to find out if there was some kind of "caretaker" for the Caddys during production, like the Daytonas had! I'm sure he or she could answer some of these questions. Surely someone in production, even Michael Mann or PMT themselves, could know some of the answers? Awesome info about the Daytonas! So...let's see if I understand you correctly. Besides the real Daytona, there were two replicas used as well? Also, you said a line of like 5 or 6...were all the repilcas made for "MV"....or were the others made to sell?I thought Ferrari made production destroy the replicas, and for compensation they gave them the use of two brand new Testarossas? I don't necessarily think they actually blew one of the replicas up in the 3rd season premiere...I figured they did it privately. But, maybe they didn't actually destroy them?? So, that one in that museum, is it the only one left surviving? What became of the real Daytona...or did you already say? Sorry...there's so much I'm having trouble keeping it all straight.

[Kavinsky]

I don't know about the engines in the Caddys used? Both could have had the 390 or the 427...or one could have had one' date=' while the other had the other! :rolleyes:It would be awesome to find out if there was some kind of "caretaker" for the Caddys during production, like the Daytonas had! I'm sure he or she could answer some of these questions. Surely someone in production, even Michael Mann or PMT themselves, could know some of the answers? Awesome info about the Daytonas! So...let's see if I understand you correctly. Besides the real Daytona, there were two replicas used as well? Also, you said a line of like 5 or 6...were all the repilcas made for "MV"....or were the others made to sell?I thought Ferrari made production destroy the replicas, and for compensation they gave them the use of two brand new Testarossas? I don't necessarily think they actually blew one of the replicas up in the 3rd season premiere...I figured they did it privately. But, maybe they didn't actually destroy them?? So, that one in that museum, is it the only one left surviving? What became of the real Daytona...or did you already say? Sorry...there's so much I'm having trouble keeping it all straight. [/quote']I dont know, best guess would be to ask PMT as Carl Roberts did try to get Don to show up for this photo shoot with the testarossa stuntcar and the daytona after its retirement and he WAS supposed to. but didnt show for scheduling reasons so one would presume that PMT being the main driver of the cars might have had some sort of talk with its care taker in some means or anotheryes two used but they made APPARENTLY 5 or 6 in total, markadian and mcburnie with a different man on the interior of the first two 1 and 2, then Mark Chinetti on the last two car 3 and car 4 who did a really nice top job on it:its more or less as it left the show in that photo outside of the door panels being replaced, probably because the sound system was redone in 1988 with the speakers being put behind the seats and a CD player being put in, so it needed to come outthe burlwood trim being removed and replaced with the stock plastic unit (probably drill holes in it from the prop phone they used to cover up the auto shifter gauges hence it being removed and replaced)and the shift knob being switched over to stock and the AC controls going back to mechanical vette ones instead of the mercedes vacuum controlled oneshttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/photoplog/index.php?n=6600 its pretty much 90% there, hell theres even marks on the back of the seat from where the leather stripe was taken off after it left the show that had been put on for S2and all the changes were done in period anyways and looked to be for the better. hell with the removal of the burlwood the center console now matches the steering wheel yet keeps a nice wooden accent with the carpet that matched it under the dash there. but that just shows you how much of a nice interior it had to begin with, as 30 years latter it's still pretty much as we saw it back in the old days.and better looking than the ferrari it imitated as all ferraris back then used the same basic interior, hell the Dino here has pretty much EXACTLY the same interior as what came with the daytona

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hell it wasnt up until the testarossa that they tried anything new with there interiors anyways, part of the reason why the TR was so hyped, all new body and interior on the midengined chasis that came after the daytonaalso apparently his son did the interior of Sonny Burnetts car and possibly youngman's but he refused to work with mcburnie again as he got snuffed on the payment for car 3 and 4 back in 81which really sucks considering how good it looked and looks, would have been nice to see more of them like that. as to whether or not there was a car 5 and 6 is kind of up in the air, the most info on that we got from thishttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7830&stc=1&d=1366067538from cooper and burnett's thread on it, click on it, view image and zoom in to read the text but outside of maybe a markadian logo on the speedo if they even have it, there would be no real way to know.the cars were I guess going to be sold in the vain of thesehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutz_IV-Portehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stutz_Blackhawkhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0052/index.htmlhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0044/index.htmlhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0032/index.htmlexcept well not ugly and ment as a more exotic version of it based off of the daytona and the daytona race car weilded by paul newman hence its flares

and with some other custom corvette features, like the smoked plexyglass with square headlights to give the impression of the pop up headlights without the ugliness of having them up and interfering with the airflowlike it had in the pilot and S2, S3that was taken off after it left the show, like with the first photo there, probably because well no high intensity headlights were avaliabile back then (Like Jurrasic is running on his with his own smoked plexyglass nowdays and said without them there would be no way for him to drive at night without them, dont know if he tried the S2/S3 trick though) where you had to put the highs on to really break throught the smoked plexyglass in S2which is why in El Viejo he's running with them on all the time at night at 2:46http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uk_sYnQLpMto see the road.stock with circular headlights http://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/street/s0036/index.htmlaftermarket like the vice car hadhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/street/s0047/index.htmlkinda think of it as a corvette + with exotic flare and keep in mind in 1981 no convertible vette for the past 7 yearshence the chrome not being blacked out where the T tops would have sat on this customhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0042/index.htmland also car 4 started its life out as roughly thishttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/1981/1981b/index.htmlbeige on beigeand basically they did to it like these guys did with the roadrunner

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and the iso grifohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iso_Grifoand also well the Corvette became what it was only because of a Belgian otherwise it would have been just another muscle car with bad brakes so it kinda fitI mean hell its not the first time a belgian has made something for the united states and it became it's high watermark so its not like some hack said oh I dont like it and turned it into someones nightmare like you see with alot of riceburning imports nowadays or even some of those custom corvettes http://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0046/index.htmlhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0047/index.htmlthese guys knew what they were doing, not unlike this guy in a wayhttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0017/index.htmlwhich shows sometimes a custom DOES look far better than stock, mind you a few minor details are off but eh what he did right outdoes what looks off by a huge margin the negatives being the seats, steering wheel and the buick bullethole things on the hood, other than that yeash he did a damn good job with it.

[ViceFanMan]

Awesome info about the Daytonas...thanks!! I saw on IMCDb the other day that a few years ago someone claimed to have, or knew someone that has, one of the Caddys used in "MV". If it is actually one of the Caddys used, it looks to be the aqua-green one with the black steering wheel. The guy claims it's the same paint job, but to me it looks like it's been repainted since the "MV" days. Either way, it does look like the same color and looks awesome! I'd kill (figuratively speaking of course ) to have this car! Here's a pic: [ATTACH=CONFIG]7836[/ATTACH]Here is the guys statement and info with the pic (grammar is a little off):[some informations: This is the original car used for shooting Miami Vice It is a Cadillac Deville Convertible 1964 Model nr 64-63F Style nr 6267F It has been brouth from Bahamas (where the last episode was shooted) to Belgium by the previous owner I guess the painting was specially made for the shooting as it has been done very quickly (badly) but looks fantastic on pictures.] This pic and info was from 2008. What happened to the aqua-green one with the white steering wheel, or the gray/silver blue one with the black steering wheel is not known. I'd hope they survived are are somewhere today...but who knows??

[Kavinsky]

actually one of the Caddys used, it looks to be the aqua-green one with the black steering wheel. The guy claims it's the same paint job, but to me it looks like it's been repainted since the "MV" days. Either way, it does look like the same color and looks awesome! I'd kill (figuratively speaking of course ) to have this car! Here's a pic: [ATTACH=CONFIG]7836[/ATTACH]Here is the guys statement and info with the pic (grammar is a little off):[some informations: This is the original car used for shooting Miami Vice It is a Cadillac Deville Convertible 1964 Model nr 64-63F Style nr 6267F It has been brouth from Bahamas (where the last episode was shooted) to Belgium by the previous owner I guess the painting was specially made for the shooting as it has been done very quickly (badly) but looks fantastic on pictures.] This pic and info was from 2008. What happened to the aqua-green one with the white steering wheel, or the gray/silver blue one with the black steering wheel is not known. I'd hope they survived are are somewhere today...but who knows??

Belgium? man that thing would stick out like you wouldnt believe if that's true. probably would be like the french 1971 hemi cuda convertibile over there they found in paris, the one and only one of its kind that was exported to it offically and ordered from the factory over there that they did an article on it mopar muscle back in like 97'white and black I might add with billboards down the sideit does look repainted however, the sides seem more gloss than the rest of the car, namely the hood and what does style nr 6267F mean?I got a friend over there actually, she went to some city car show at one point and showed some really weird ass car here http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7837&stc=1&d=1366437994first car in a LONG time I have not been able to identify, looks like that odd custom from a clockwork orange but havent been able to figure out what just the hell it isso if it shows up in her hometown I'm pretty sure because of how big it is (she hates big cars and 2 seaters, calls them forever alone cars in the D's case, even though Jurrasic is married, camera is married, jay leno is married....) but that regardless if something that big showed up in her hometown I'm pretty sure she'd note it probably because of how much of the pedal bike lane shes using it would take up!question is why did the car end up in the Bahamas from miami, what did they strap it on the chris craft or something, then some rich bloke decided to send it to belgium.a place with small streets laid out like the city planner was on LSD and way too many people in it because of how nice it is to its workers, along with lots of rainEdit:said it doesnt make sense if its in her part of beligum, flanders, might be Wallonia given it has much more open untouched areas and mountains and ski resorts.other thing that might be possibile is maybe its being rented out, I know of places in england where you can rent cars rigged up like the ones used in shows, the starsky and hutch car for instance along with gene hunts quattromaybe for weddings weirdly? like that miami vice experence thing in the Netherlands that never got off the grounds that we found a few years ago

[ViceFanMan]

http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7837&stc=1&d=1366437994first car in a LONG time I have not been able to identify, looks like that odd custom from a clockwork orange but havent been able to figure out what just the hell it isso if it shows up in her hometown I'm pretty sure because of how big it is (she hates big cars and 2 seaters, calls them forever alone cars in the D's case, even though Jurrasic is married, camera is married, jay leno is married....) but that regardless if something that big showed up in her hometown I'm pretty sure she'd note it probably because of how much of the pedal bike lane shes using it would take up!question is why did the car end up in the Bahamas from miami, what did they strap it on the chris craft or something, then some rich bloke decided to send it to belgium.a place with small streets laid out like the city planner was on LSD and way too many people in it because of how nice it is to its workers, along with lots of rainEdit:said it doesnt make sense if its in her part of beligum, flanders, might be Wallonia given it has much more open untouched areas and mountains and ski resorts.other thing that might be possibile is maybe its being rented out, I know of places in england where you can rent cars rigged up like the ones used in shows, the starsky and hutch car for instance along with gene hunts quattromaybe for weddings weirdly? like that miami vice experence thing in the Netherlands that never got off the grounds that we found a few years ago

Yeah, if this Caddy really was one of the "MV" ones, I think it's been repainted since. I also have no idea what model 6267F means?? :confused: As for how the car was in the Bahamas first...don't know? The guy claimed that's where the last episode was filmed and that's how...but I don't think that's right?? I think "Freefall" was filmed in Miami...but were some scenes filmed in the Bahamas?As for it being in Belgium...that guy probably bought it and had it shipped there. I wouldn't think Tubbs' Caddy would be well-known or famous enough to warrant being rented out to someone who wanted to use cars that looked like famous cars from TV (such as Starsky's red & white striped Ford Torino)...but maybe right after "MV" went off the air I guess it could have been?As for your friend...don't know if she'd know about that Caddy or not. If that guy bought it right after the series went off then he's had it since 1989. Has she been there that long? He could have it in storage most of the time too, and doesn't drive it on the small streets much. That pic and info were from 5 years ago...so who knows if that guy and the car are still in Belgium--or if that pic was even from Belgium. The guy could have been in Belgium back when he first bought the car but is now somewhere else.Pretty wild car you pictured...what the heck is that thing? Looks pretty "space-age". Not my kind of car.

[Kavinsky]

if this Caddy really was one of the "MV" ones, I think it's been repainted since. I also have no idea what model 6267F means?? :confused: As for how the car was in the Bahamas first...don't know? The guy claimed that's where the last episode was filmed and that's how...but I don't think that's right?? I think "Freefall" was filmed in Miami...but were some scenes filmed in the Bahamas?As for it being in Belgium...that guy probably bought it and had it shipped there. I wouldn't think Tubbs' Caddy would be well-known or famous enough to warrant being rented out to someone who wanted to use cars that looked like famous cars from TV (such as Starsky's red & white striped Ford Torino)...but maybe right after "MV" went off the air I guess it could have been?As for your friend...don't know if she'd know about that Caddy or not. If that guy bought it right after the series went off then he's had it since 1989. Has she been there that long? He could have it in storage most of the time too, and doesn't drive it on the small streets much. That pic and info were from 5 years ago...so who knows if that guy and the car are still in Belgium--or if that pic was even from Belgium. The guy could have been in Belgium back when he first bought the car but is now somewhere else.Pretty wild car you pictured...what the heck is that thing? Looks pretty "space-age". Not my kind of car.

yeah I'm not sure either, I dont remember anything about freefall being filmed in the bahmas either, thought that was ONLY calderon's demise. Hell even with the afternoon plane that was supposed to be taking place there it was some place in miami, atleast with the airfield.hell even says that one of the scenes in freefall was filmed in LA of all places, the bar scene: http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=141you know I came across video while browsing for cars like tubbs and came across some old beat up 64' on some island down there awhile back, maybe its just a coincidence and because of the color scheme he thought he had tubbs car? I mean the only way to know for sure is the paperwork as the caddie didnt have any MV only marks on it like the D didbecause of its markadian origins and the rare momo veloce steering wheel.yeah she's lived there all her life pretty much, the flanders area and she was born in 88' so its about the time she may have seen the car around. but as she reported she would have noticed it if it was in that part of Belgium.my gut says that the photo of the caddie you posted wasnt the bahmas or Belgium but rather puerto rico which is trying to get statehood I might add, something about the photo just reminds me of the time I spent down there on vacation.with that other car I dont know either, I thought lola T7 like the car from THX 1187 or some sort of mclaren from the early days but nothing really matched http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115575-Lola-T70.htmldid like this one thoughhttp://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115577-Thomassima-II.htmlbut nothing that quite looks like that one, not even the clockwork orange onehttp://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_3444-Adams-Probe-16-1970.html

[Kavinsky]

Might have found a match here for the blue silver by the way

seems like the car might have been on the GM color list for quite a bit longer as well too like stinger said.

[ViceFanMan]

http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=141you know I came across video while browsing for cars like tubbs and came across some old beat up 64' on some island down there awhile back, maybe its just a coincidence and because of the color scheme he thought he had tubbs car? I mean the only way to know for sure is the paperwork as the caddie didnt have any MV only marks on it like the D didbecause of its markadian origins and the rare momo veloce steering wheel.yeah she's lived there all her life pretty much, the flanders area and she was born in 88' so its about the time she may have seen the car around. but as she reported she would have noticed it if it was in that part of Belgium.my gut says that the photo of the caddie you posted wasnt the bahmas or Belgium but rather puerto rico which is trying to get statehood I might add, something about the photo just reminds me of the time I spent down there on vacation.with that other car I dont know either, I thought lola T7 like the car from THX 1187 or some sort of mclaren from the early days but nothing really matched http://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115575-Lola-T70.htmldid like this one thoughhttp://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_115577-Thomassima-II.htmlbut nothing that quite looks like that one, not even the clockwork orange onehttp://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_3444-Adams-Probe-16-1970.html

Might have found a match here for the blue silver by the way

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJXqEzhXplc

seems like the car might have been on the GM color list for quite a bit longer as well too like stinger said.

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJSdtPD_AD8

Well' date=' if your friend was born in 1988...she'd only be around 24 or 25. In 1989, when "MV" went off the air she'd of only been around 1 year old...if that. So, if that was around the time that guy had that Caddy shipped to Belgium, then she wouldn't remember it because she would have been a baby. He may have only been in Belgium for a while and then later left & is somewhere else now. So, by the time your friend was old enough to notice and remember what cars she's seen there, he was already gone...along with the Caddy.Who knows how much of that info is true? I got it off IMCDb, under the section on Tubbs' Caddy in "Miami Vice". It's obviously a 64 DeVille just like Tubbs'...but I don't think any of the show (other than maybe "Calderone's Return" Pt. 2--like you stated) was filmed in the Bahamas. But, maybe the studio was wanting to get rid of them once the show was cancelled...and sold/auctioned them off...and some guy with $$ snatched this one up and took off out of the country. Who knows?? :rolleyes:As for your videos of the Caddys the same color as Tubbs' blue-silver one....that top one of the 64 DeVille just like Tubbs' is [b']VERY close!! It could very well be the same color...like you stated sometime back the lighting when filming something sometimes makes colors look different at different times. In that top one it sometimes looked the same as Tubbs'...other times it looked somewhat different. As for that 80's Caddy, it too looked somewhat close but I don't think it was the same as Tubbs'...but again, maybe the darker lighting in that garage made it look different?? Was the name of the color on either of those Caddys ever stated?By the way, I've been meaning to ask something and keep forgetting. This is probably a stupid question, but what's the difference between a "DeVille" and a "Coupe DeVille"? Doesn't the term "Coupe" usually mean like a "sportier" version or edition? Was Tubbs' Caddys Coupe DeVilles...or not? I didn't know if there were body and/or interior differences or not, and thought I'd ask.

[Kavinsky]

VERY close!! It could very well be the same color...like you stated sometime back the lighting when filming something sometimes makes colors look different at different times. In that top one it sometimes looked the same as Tubbs'...other times it looked somewhat different. As for that 80's Caddy, it too looked somewhat close but I don't think it was the same as Tubbs'...but again, maybe the darker lighting in that garage made it look different?? Was the name of the color on either of those Caddys ever stated?By the way, I've been meaning to ask something and keep forgetting. This is probably a stupid question, but what's the difference between a "DeVille" and a "Coupe DeVille"? Doesn't the term "Coupe" usually mean like a "sportier" version or edition? Was Tubbs' Caddys Coupe DeVilles...or not? I didn't know if there were body and/or interior differences or not, and thought I'd ask.

True but well keep in mind its Belgium, any sort of an american car would stick out and even as a kid you always note things that stick out from the norm. not unlike that memory burn thing from seinfeld with the girl in the red dress.but her info does mean that well we can atleast somewhat rule it being in that part of Belgium at present unless someone from the other side of the pond suddenly sees a 64 Deville convertibile riding around at some american car only car show.just thinking something, for the D its licence plate in the show was actually its legit plate until they decided to buy the car for the show and it had to be registered in miami I think, also it used to mean some sort of rental plate with zaq. at which the plate was switched to FTA 034 something and they had to switch the plates between takes. Hence why in one way ticket before it was going to be used on the road they accidentally left the ZAQ plate off, and why if you freeze frame the 180 it does in florence italy at the end its wearing a different plate.wonder if the caddie had the same thingactually hold on a tick.... with that guy who said he had the miami vice testarossa, the ferrari chat guy actually went to the florida DMV licence plate to do a check on the car and found he had lied and had actually had the car since 2010.when he said it was recently found..... wonder if we could do the same trick with the caddie here off of its number, 993 CBD it looks like.mind you its a 30 year old plate and atleast here in MA they forced everyone over to front license plates and made you pick up a new one, may be the same for Florida as wellnot sure how he did it thought if this is the website....http://www.dmvflorida.org/says something about a points system and it recognizes new york plates now, that cant be a good sign if there in league with those guys...Well with the studio we know they had a deal with Carl that for the two cars, the daytona's he would make a stunt car for the TR, the Caddies however had a full run atleast one of them did, I would imagine if they auctioned it off there would be a record somewhereactually in cooper and burnetts scrap book there was a mention of a prop auction after the show ended, however I'm pretty sure the 64' would have been a noted "prop" if that was the case, on the other hand if it wasnt who knows as we dont know how that swap meet even got one of the TR'sso the sales of the cars might have been on the DL somewhere, without the paperwork we'll never really know.I just hope it didnt suffer the same fate as the top gear econo car that they used for the stars in a reasonably priced car section, where as because of how beaten up it was and legal safety reasons the BBC said that they couldnt sell the car and thus opted to destroy it on screenone of two cars killed by Goverment BS over there, the other one being an Evo that had been seized and because of legal crap and mods to it they couldnt sell it back to the people, just destroy it.I think it was the darker lighting with the latter caddie but it looks more or less dead on to me, but yeah depending on the lighting the daytona for instance gets a sort of blue hue to it, could be the same for this and the greenish blue one.I dont know what the color name is but I wonder if that one on the blue green one could be a color code, but well the one posted there IS for a Dallas Texas dealership, I could just ask him on youtube what the color is, see if he responds.doesnt say the cars been sold after all and its only a 2 year old video.with the name I'm not sure, might just be a way to tell them apart, coupe deville being just coupe and the convertible just deville

[Matt5]

Great info and pictures - thankyou

[CameraDaytona]

also apparently his son did the interior of Sonny Burnetts car and possibly youngman's but he refused to work with mcburnie again as he got snuffed on the payment for car 3 and 4 back in 81which really sucks considering how good it looked and looks' date=' would have been nice to see more of them like that. as to whether or not there was a car 5 and 6 is kind of up in the air, the most info on that we got from this. [/quote']I own the Daytona Camera Car - #4 referred to by Kavinsky. I spent several hours with Tom McBurnie at his place in San Diego in the late 90s discussing his building of this car and the other 3 for Albert Mardikian. According to Tom, the original agreement was for 4 cars which he built and sent to Mardikian's shop in LA. He didn't mention any other cars built as "Mardikians". Perhaps he built a 5th car for his brother after completing the 4 for Mardikian. As the article says, after the first 4 McBurnie and Mardikian had a "falling out" and McBurnie built no more as "Mardikians" - but did, of course, start building Daytonas as "McBurnies".Kavinsky is partially correct concerning the car that the Volo museum has. It was the car used in Speed Trap but not the car used in the Miami Vice series. I do not believe that the body is even a McBurnie body. The chassis is not the 76 chassis of Car 1 and the interior is totally different. As Kavinsky says, Car 1 was disassembled to build a stunt Testarossa but would not work. It was never put back together and no one knows for sure where the parts ended up.

[ViceFanMan]

http://www.miami-vice.ws/images/KDPics/ricardoscadillacSB1.jpgactually hold on a tick.... with that guy who said he had the miami vice testarossa, the ferrari chat guy actually went to the florida DMV licence plate to do a check on the car and found he had lied and had actually had the car since 2010.when he said it was recently found..... wonder if we could do the same trick with the caddie here off of its number, 993 CBD it looks like.mind you its a 30 year old plate and atleast here in MA they forced everyone over to front license plates and made you pick up a new one, may be the same for Florida as wellnot sure how he did it thought if this is the website....http://www.dmvflorida.org/says something about a points system and it recognizes new york plates now, that cant be a good sign if there in league with those guys...Well with the studio we know they had a deal with Carl that for the two cars, the daytona's he would make a stunt car for the TR, the Caddies however had a full run atleast one of them did, I would imagine if they auctioned it off there would be a record somewhereactually in cooper and burnetts scrap book there was a mention of a prop auction after the show ended, however I'm pretty sure the 64' would have been a noted "prop" if that was the case, on the other hand if it wasnt who knows as we dont know how that swap meet even got one of the TR'sso the sales of the cars might have been on the DL somewhere, without the paperwork we'll never really know.I just hope it didnt suffer the same fate as the top gear econo car that they used for the stars in a reasonably priced car section, where as because of how beaten up it was and legal safety reasons the BBC said that they couldnt sell the car and thus opted to destroy it on screenone of two cars killed by Goverment BS over there, the other one being an Evo that had been seized and because of legal crap and mods to it they couldnt sell it back to the people, just destroy it.I think it was the darker lighting with the latter caddie but it looks more or less dead on to me, but yeah depending on the lighting the daytona for instance gets a sort of blue hue to it, could be the same for this and the greenish blue one.I dont know what the color name is but I wonder if that one on the blue green one could be a color code, but well the one posted there IS for a Dallas Texas dealership, I could just ask him on youtube what the color is, see if he responds.doesnt say the cars been sold after all and its only a 2 year old video.with the name I'm not sure, might just be a way to tell them apart, coupe deville being just coupe and the convertible just deville

An American car may stand out in Belgium, even to a kid...but not to a baby. She would not have been old enough to remember a 1964 Cadillac DeVille driving around, in 1989 or 90. If that guy actually ever was in Belgium with the Caddy, I'm sure he probably left and was somewhere else by the time your friend would have been old enough to start noticing or "appreciating" cars of certain kinds.Interesting info about the plates! I don't know if production bought, or rented, or found the Caddys from different studio lots, and acquired them that way? Depending on how many Caddys were actually used on the show...they probably bought one from someone and painted/transformed it into what they needed for "MV". Then, they went looking for another car of the same, to use for stunts and/or chase scenes. I don't know if they would rent them from anywhere or not...after all at least one (if not more) sustained damage and "abuse" along the way. :eek:Also, I've read in the past that at least one of the Caddys was not in that great of condition to begin with...and it was painted as close as possible to match as well as it was the one used for the stunts/chase/"abuse" scenes. I'm not positive, but from what I've watched on the show, I think that one was probably the blue-silver/black steering wheel one.It would be awesome to find out from someone involved with the show back then, to see if they remember and/or know what happened to the Caddys once the show went off the air. But, who knows...sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who can practically remember everything, LOL!

[Kavinsky]

True but hey never know, I still remember that Bright Yellow 1970 Buick GSX that was parked next to my 4th grade school. What the hell it was doing there I still dont know.the rarest god damn Buick in the world in probably and its sitting next to a grade school out in the open in the sunshine like eastwood was doing with the gran torino I dont know where they acquired them from or where they got them but they did repaint the daytona replica, the one that's dust now from red to black for the show, the one they aquired after the pilot for the show so it wouldnt be that far fetched to think maybe they did the same there.yeah I remember seeing rust spots on the grill of the blue silver one in el viejo when chasing the TR in her original black metallic color at 1:28

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and some bubbling on the bodywork of it in the close ups in shadow in the dark.the key I would imagine would be finding out who selected Ricardo Tubbs car in the first place, or even wrote him, I mean he was sort of an old school guy in alot of waysalways well dressed, well groomed like an old school pro, carried a Model 49 Steel framed J frame like the Massachusetts state troopers did (they were the ones who requested that Smith and wesson make a steel J frame that lasts instead of the alloy ones that just fall apart after about 15 years of use in the first place) along with a deringer as a backup along with a shotgun as a go to primary (something only someone who knew anything about firearms would do, as close up a shotgun makes a pistol look like a pop gun, something not alot of people know, although a cop would. that's also why sawn off or short barreled shotguns are so illegal and considered class 3, same as full auto and suppressed guns and are incredibily hard to get permits for, despite them showing up on TV like theres a guns R us on it where they just hand out guns like there chocolate or somethingI hate modern tv lol MV builds an entire episode around that kind of stuff called evan, the best of the series more or less and they cant even bother to explain it away with a throwaway line!)anyways so its gotta be well Michale Mann or the other guy who wrote the pilot who probably wrote the car in, Anthony Yerkovicheither that or the guy who wrote or directed the episode it showed up first inhttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=10Bobby Roth, I mean Tubbs up until that point didnt have a car period, that would be something I would imagine the director would choose.hmm amazing how much more vibrant the original cut looks there too vs the dvd cut:like someone turned down the brightness by atleast 20%

[Leigh Burne]

like someone turned down the brightness by atleast 20%

And the contrast, the DVD looks so grey and washed out...

[Kavinsky]

Indeed, wonder if I'm going to have to set up a separate custom vice feature for the tv with the dvd's then, boost the brightness by 20% and the contrastactually the most startling thing about the change is what it does to the blue silver car, looks more like the blue green one now.also whatever works was on today, the car had the licence plate again, that 993 CB something plate again not sure if its D or Qthis scene when they pull uphttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/screenshots/whatever10.jpgalso I did do a quick boost of the contrast and brightness of that scene by 20% in photoscape, might need to make it 30% or 40%Original TV CutOriginal DVD cutSlightly boosted by 20%http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7872&stc=1&d=1367043006by 40%http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7873&stc=1&d=1367043271Might need to fiddle with the Hue a touch, a little bit more green but its much closer now.funny actually the color differences kind of reminds me of how I somehow came across a Miami Vice Promo with Jay Leno on youtube and in it he said if there was ever a reason to own a Color TV its miami vice lol you kind of forget that just 5 years before Vice the brown and gritty look of Kojack was in full swing and that 5 years before 1974 most people probably still had black and white tv's also speaking of leno they said something about Jimmy Fallon taking over the tonight show in Spring 2014, hmph if they thought ratings took a dip when Conan took over.....I mean atleast with Leno and Conan they were both good guys, just screwed over by the management and leno wanted to step down anyways, hell Carson HATED them with a passion probably just because of this kind of screwing around in his day. and now there giving Fallon the tonight show, what the hell are they thinking. Craig Fergison would be a far better choice than that guy.ah well, some people have to learn the hard way.