Matt5 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 47 minutes ago, ivoryjones said: Though obviously one could not say at all there's any "structural" relation between them, I do think there are some ideas that do link "Bushido" to 007 movies, especially the oldest ones. Isn't the "They sent me to fall in love with him" (Laura Gretsky words, referring to Jack) a concept already there in 007's "From Russia With Love"? Even both girls were Russians... and spies... Also, that FANTASTIC scene in which Castillo cling to that ceiling had a parallel on "Goldfinger" (Bond does pretty much the same). I know it has been done many times (for more examples, check here), but anyway... Moreover, the idea of an agent of the highest level, who sees everything, the whole situation, and will beat everyone (that applies to Gretsky and no doubt to Castillo) is, at least to me, one of the charms of the old Bond movies. I like a lot when that kind of "chess players", who beats nearly everyone (including Crockett & Tubbs), except Castillo, appears on Miami Vice. I do find some of that also in "Heroes of the Revolution", as Klaus Herzog can do whatever he wants, and he's always a step ahead. If there's something real about this, I don't think at all we're talking about "copying" 007, anything like that. To me it's more like some sort of inspiration, or "thematic visit", that lead to a very different and powerful and dramatic work (Bushido). Great review ! very valid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 A great episode directed by Edward James Olmos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytona74 Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Absolutely one of the best episodes. And Edward James Olmos did a great job directing it and shedding a little more light on his character's past. Jan Hammer's "Bushido" theme is one of the most haunting that he ever did. It's just a shame that it's tucked away on the Complete Collection as the second part of Russian Story, and that it's so different from the way it sounds in the episode. He should have devoted a separate track to it and called it Castillo's Theme, and kept it as close as possible to what it sounds like in the episode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoryjones Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 Maybe there's an interesting detail regarding the cast. Laura Gretsky was played by Natasha Shneider (credited as Natasha Detente), who was Russian. Marty Gretsky, her son, was played by Rob Kapustin. Well, on imdb it reads that Natasha Shneider had as nickname Natasha Kapustin, and I've discovered on Wikipedia that she was once married to Serge Kapustin. So maybe Rob Kapustin was her son in real life? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted January 13, 2017 Report Share Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, ivoryjones said: Maybe there's an interesting detail regarding the cast. Laura Gretsky was played by Natasha Shneider (credited as Natasha Detente), who was Russian. Marty Gretsky, her son, was played by Rob Kapustin. Well, on imdb it reads that Natasha Shneider had as nickname Natasha Kapustin, and I've discovered on Wikipedia that she was once married to Serge Kapustin. So maybe Rob Kapustin was her son in real life? That's very interesting...I never made the connection about the boy in real life. I wonder if true. I think she also played in a band and acted in the movie 2010, along with Bob Balaban, and sadly died way too early. Edited January 13, 2017 by Sonny-Burnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Taylor Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) Zitat Also, that FANTASTIC scene in which Castillo cling to that ceiling had a parallel on "Goldfinger" (Bond does pretty much the same). I know it has been done many times (for more examples, check here), but anyway... Yeah, but the difference between Bond and Castillo is that Castillo does it while bleeding his guts out! He does the bad-ass version. xD Zitat Moreover, the idea of an agent of the highest level, who sees everything, the whole situation, and will beat everyone (that applies to Gretsky and no doubt to Castillo) is, at least to me, one of the charms of the old Bond movies. I like a lot when that kind of "chess players", who beats nearly everyone (including Crockett & Tubbs), except Castillo, appears on Miami Vice. I do find some of that also in "Heroes of the Revolution", as Klaus Herzog can do whatever he wants, and he's always a step ahead. And that episode definitely has a Bond-Connection since the actor who played Herzog (Jeroen Krabbé) also played in the 87 Bond movie The Living Daylights (one of my fav 007 movies). He played a a KGB agent that was supposedely defecting - so the role was pretty similar. I'm wondering which came first - the MV episode or the Bond movie? Because whoever cast him surely did so because of the previous role! Zitat A great episode directed by Edward James Olmos. Wow, I didn't realize that he directed this. No wonder Castillo comes off as the toughest guy on earth, haha. Edited January 17, 2017 by Den Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remington Posted May 8, 2017 Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 When I first saw S2 i was kinda let down by most episodes because they weren't exactly like S1. Nowadays I enjoy this season every time I watch it. Bushido is one of my favorites. Once again it has kind of a Bond vibe so no complaints. The opening left me in tears. WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE? Love the finale. EJO should've directed more. 9.5/10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Bushido is one of my fave eps.. As in most shows exemplifies why the first 3 seasons are the best of the whole series before it runs out of stories for numerous reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Am 18.1.2017 um 00:18 schrieb Den Taylor: He played a a KGB agent that was supposedely defecting - so the role was pretty similar. I'm wondering which came first - the MV episode or the Bond movie? Bond movie was first. It was shot around spring/summer 1986, the Vice episode was shot last of third season in March 1987. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 18 minutes ago, Tom said: Bond movie was first. It was shot around spring/summer 1986, the Vice episode was shot last of third season in March 1987. I agree the Bond movie was first even though the Miami Vice episode aired first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Taylor Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) Am 22.6.2018 um 20:42 schrieb Matt5: I agree the Bond movie was first even though the Miami Vice episode aired first! I just checked - the Bond movie was released June 29, 1987. When was the MV episode aired? Edited September 21, 2018 by Den Taylor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted September 21, 2018 Report Share Posted September 21, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Den Taylor said: I just checked - the Bond movie was released June 29, 1987. When was the MV episode aired? It’s interesting Den - Jeroen Krabbe shot scenes for the Bond movie from October 1986 till roughly the end of the year - with the movie being released in the Summer of ‘87. He shot his scenes for Miami Vice, a good few months after filming Bond, in March ‘87 but the episode aired two months later in early May 1987 a good 6-7 weeks before the Bond movie was released in theatres. Edited September 21, 2018 by Matt5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted December 17, 2018 Report Share Posted December 17, 2018 Awesome 10/10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) On 12/17/2018 at 2:50 PM, RedDragon86 said: Awesome 10/10 I agree , I’ve been watching Season 2 in order (again! Ha ha) and saw this one last week , just so good and really quite different to other MV episodes. Dean Stockwell as Jack is great in his starring role here. Edited December 18, 2018 by Matt5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Matt5 said: I agree , I’ve been watching Season 2 in order (again! Ha ha) and saw this one last week , just so good and really quite different to other MV episodes. Dean Stockwell as Jack is great in his starring role here. Wonderful episode, its so authentic, you can really sense that Marty and Jack knew each other, and his wife is brilliantly cast. Its very atmospheric in a haunting sort of way, the use of the "Kate Bush" song "Hello Earth" was pure genius at they end. Edited December 18, 2018 by RedDragon86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted December 18, 2018 Report Share Posted December 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, RedDragon86 said: Wonderful episode, its so authentic, you can really sense that Marty and Jack knew each other, and his wife is brilliantly cast. Its very atmospheric in a haunting sort of way, the use of the "Kate Bush" song "Hello Earth" was pure genius at they end. Yes excellent. Dean Stockwell as Jack is an excellent actor - and good directing by Edward James Olmos here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 Reading about Ninja's today (yes, I know-ninja's? ) Anyway, I found this interesting review of Bushido. https://wherebadmovieslive.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/miami-vice-monday-special-guest-review-bushido/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 2 hours ago, mjcmmv said: Reading about Ninja's today (yes, I know-ninja's? ) Anyway, I found this interesting review of Bushido. https://wherebadmovieslive.wordpress.com/2010/08/29/miami-vice-monday-special-guest-review-bushido/ Interesting in a half-assed sort of way, I suppose. I always love it when people can identify every edged weapon in a show but stumble over the firearms. IMFDB exists for a reason... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Robbie C. said: Interesting in a half-assed sort of way, I suppose. I always love it when people can identify every edged weapon in a show but stumble over the firearms. IMFDB exists for a reason... True. And the review was a little snarky. They love to make fun and get wise over the dialogue or plot. It annoys me, but makes me laugh, too. Surf was a bit ridiculous! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted June 20, 2019 Report Share Posted June 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, mjcmmv said: True. And the review was a little snarky. They love to make fun and get wise over the dialogue or plot. It annoys me, but makes me laugh, too. Surf was a bit ridiculous! Surf was, but he was supposed to be. There was a whole thing back then about the KGB training agents to infiltrate the US and live for years with those kind of covers. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted August 7, 2019 Report Share Posted August 7, 2019 Okay, I agree with this review, wholeheartedly! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IzzyFan99 Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) It arguably has one of the best openings to a Vice episode and EJO gives an incredible performance as he always does, but personally I don't find it as entertaining as other episodes from the season. Castillo is certainly a great and intriguing character, though. I watched this one along with Phil The Shill and Payback last night and it seemed a lot slower to me compared to the other two. I much prefer The Golden Triangle when it comes to Castillo episodes. 6/10 Edited June 20, 2020 by IzzyFan99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted June 20, 2020 Report Share Posted June 20, 2020 It's supposed to be slower. It is, however, one of the episodes that lost some great bits between the draft scripts and the actual shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted June 21, 2020 Report Share Posted June 21, 2020 Great episode and lots of character stuff with Castillo. The Castillo and Jack scenes were great at the Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewRemington Posted January 15, 2021 Report Share Posted January 15, 2021 I’m pretty sure this is the issue of Mad Magazine little Marty had in this episode. I don’t own this one, but I have quite a collection of old Mad’s. The filming dates for “Bushido” are in October 1985, but this issue is for December. Seems odd to me. You can clearly see Rambo on the cover of the Mad he had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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