cageyJG Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Heard "Talking to you" for the first time tonight. Loved it. Very representative of the early 80s. Has anyone else heard it? Anyone have an .mp3 to post? The instrumentals sound very much classic rock, remind me of Rush & Jimmy Page maybe. From "Untold Passion," 1981, Neil Schon/Jan Hammer All Music GuideBefore Journey became one of the top pop rock acts of the early 80s with a string of arena rock anthems and power ballads, the group had a more detectable prog and fusion edge while guitarist Neal Schon's earliest work was with the very unJourneylike Carlos Santana. So at the height of Journey's popularity, it appeared as though Schon wanted to get back to his fusion roots, by uniting with keyboard wizard Jan Hammer. However, the resulting album, 1981's Untold Passion,' wasn't going to be confused with Mahavishnu Orchestra anytime soon tracks such as "I'm Talking to You" wasn't much different from Journey's melodic rock style, while "Hooked on Love" saw Schon (who also doubled as vocalist) replicate Paul Rodgers' singing style. That said, the funky keyboard/guitar duel, "The Ride," gave both Schon and Hammer a chance to show off their chops. Untold Passion' seems to lean more towards the more melodic rock side of things, rather than fingerspraininducingchops. - Greg Prato, All Music Guide Two giants on their instruments, both with a very distinctive sound: Minimoog wizard Jan Hammer from Mahavishnu Orchestra and Jeff Beck solo fame and 'master of the biting guitar sound' Neal Schon, known from his work with Santana and Journey. On this CD Jan Hammer organised a kind of 'Journey Party' featuring Ross Valory, Steve Smith and Neal Schon from this legendary USA band that turned from an interesting 'heavy progressive' rock band into a polished 'stadium-rock' formation (but the money was good!). Some people still think that Journey only made commercial crap, well check out the albums Journey and Next and discover their dynamic and powerful sound. The track Kohoutek from their eponymous debut LP contains one of the most exciting guitar soli I have ever heard! So high expectations for this Jan Hammer/Neal Schon project but unfortunately it sounds a bit too polished to me and the vocals by Neal Schon are a bit dull. Don't get me wrong: the level of the compositions is decent, you can enjoy great work on keyboards and guitar but in general this album fails to keep my attention. The two exceptions are the instrumental songs Arc (a swinging rhythm with great Minimoog flights and biting electric guitar) and the moving titletrack: a kind of 'electronic blues' atmosphere with a strong build-up, wonderful synthesizer layers and howling electric guitar and a captivating guitar/synthesizer duel. If you can dig this CD in a mid - or low price section of a record store, check out this CD because of the two aforementioned instrumentals! Rating: 2,5 stars.-Erik Neuteboom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 great stuff!! i think a lot of people don't reallize what an amazing guitarist neal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airtommy Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 i think a lot of people don't reallize what an amazing guitarist neal is.So true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProdigalSonny Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 One of those Schon/Hammer albums(can't recall) had a track called "On the Beach" which was a decent mid tempo instrumental rocker.Just a quick note,Jan played on Al DiMeolas album Electric Rendezvous from 1981.Al like Neal,is another underrated guitarist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted December 15, 2008 Report Share Posted December 15, 2008 check out al di meola and jan hammer on "sequencer" from the album scenario. great stuff:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGCo9XHmKckcheck out jan on the fairlight (for all you "jan hammer for dummies" readers ) he's not in the video, but you can see the fairlight and hear jan playing all the synthesizers in this recording. sorry for the bad audio/video. does anyone know of a better quality version of this somewhere?you can hear many miami vice sounds in this song, and this is 2 years before vice came out!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DashN Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 looks better visually this one : Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 thanks, dashn!i agree, but they missed the whole intro of the song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger390X Posted February 23, 2009 Report Share Posted February 23, 2009 I agree. Neal Schon is an absolutely amazing artist.I was in a used CD store and found his "Beyond the Thunder" Album. It has become one of my all time favourites! Mostly instrumental, but some amazing guitar work for sure.I'm surprised to see that Neal got together with Jan? I will have to search the old used record stores for a copy of this.Someone else you might want to check out is Steve Hackett from Genesis fame. Lately he has done a lot of classical guitar and it is also amazing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cageyJG Posted July 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 Does anyone know about another colab called "No More Lies"?VH1 came and did a mini-charity thing for us a long time ago, and they brought out this HUGE (4,000+) list of songs they had videos for. Like a big karaoke guide in a pub. I found it again today by chance and believe it or not that song is listed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ferrariman Posted July 18, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 First got hooked on Al DiMeola when he played with Chick Corea in the "Return To Forever" band. Al is an incredible guitar player! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted July 18, 2009 Report Share Posted July 18, 2009 What were the albums like with Neal Schon - would a Jan Hammer (Miami Vice era) enjoy them - werent some of them produced in the 70s? or were they just early 1980s - Jan did two albums with Schon.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ferrariman Posted July 19, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 Yup, 2 albums. "Untold Passion" & "Here To Stay" Jan's style is unmistakeable no matter what decade he plays in. Add some good hard rock to it and I think any Vice fan would like it!http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=Jan+Hammer+%26+Neal+Schon&x=13&y=11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted July 19, 2009 Report Share Posted July 19, 2009 http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_m?url=search-alias%3Dpopular&field-keywords=Jan+Hammer+%26+Neal+Schon&x=13&y=11Appreiciate that- thanks Ferrariman. Like how on the Amazon.com page of the album the new version of that album has had the "Miami Vice Theme" added to the album to perhaps improve sales of the Schon/Hammer album! I thinks yeah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsEvanFreed Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Does anyone know about another colab called "No More Lies"?VH1 came and did a mini-charity thing for us a long time ago' date=' and they brought out this HUGE (4,000+) list of songs they had videos for. Like a big karaoke guide in a pub. I found it again today by chance and believe it or not that song is listed.[/quote'] I remember that one, great song and video.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTxByV2kLzc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cageyJG Posted September 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 So, what is all this in the news about Neil Schon hanging out with that awful Salami girl? I mean just look at her, she has sharp knees, she is way below my standards. No, seriously, I would not date that female because she is nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger390X Posted September 22, 2011 Report Share Posted September 22, 2011 she is nuts. Aren't they all??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsEvanFreed Posted September 25, 2011 Report Share Posted September 25, 2011 So' date=' what is all this in the news about Neil Schon hanging out with that awful Salami girl? I mean just look at her, she has sharp knees, she is way below my standards. No, seriously, I would not date that female because she is nuts.[/quote']It appears that she ran off with him, hubby filed for divorce. Which is interesting, since I believe that Neal is also married.OOPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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