Freeze...Mitt Vice!

[Viceman Cometh]

I already voted weeks ago for Mitt. I think the choice is a no brainier myself and can't believe there are so many who would vote for the idiot in there now.

Voting for Mitt is a "no brainier." Heh. Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Ferrariman]

I already voted weeks ago for Mitt. I think the choice is a no brainier myself and can't believe there are so many who would vote for the idiot in there now.

Ah the grass is always greener! I'd be willing to bet the farm that 4 years from now Mitt (if he wins) will be the idiot we want out of office....and for those concerned, I'm not choosing sides. Aside from the fact that I'm in Toronto, I've decided to sit this one out.

[Kavinsky]

Cant say I blame you, I hate the fact that politics are a necessary evil that must be discussed to even live in peace anymore, especially with the stuff I enjoy.used to feel like the two worlds were separate, now there causing problems for everyone since 9/11. Really wish we could call Scotty and just beam all of the politicians out to space and live in peace. after all life is a self governing thing and honestly I don't think we need any of those people in DC at all to live our lives at all. it seems like its just something that's gotten too big for its britches that's trying to justify its existence by secretly causing problems and then taking the credit for fixing the problems they caused.anyways I'm currently killing time by looking up Benchmade knives and planning on going for a steak tonight.if Romney doesnt win atleast if scott brown wins the senate will still not be in his favor atleast, but on the other hand they have tried to pass things without us knowing and without our approval like with sopa and pipa a few months ago.yeah criticize China or whatever over its internet censorship and then try and pull the same thing on us at pretty much the same time, ****ing ***holesso who knows anymore, really need to move somewhere where if they start causing serious problems they'll tell them to blow it out there rear.Sonny with those two things I really dont want to say what they are (its on two personal things, nothing involving econmics, guns or cars but its something I feel kind of strongly on that because of his religion he's against) but the thing with the Laser on a aircraft to take down missiles was part of the safe guard program (I believe, not sure if I got the name right) that obama torpedoed just as it was starting to show progress.

[Matt5]

Today s the day we find out about Mitt

[COOPER&BURNETT]

Vote for LUKE SKYWALKER. He's our only hope.

[cageyJG]

Ok, it's starting to get scary now.

[Kavinsky]

bad news on the homefront for me, that bitch won by some huge number, damn near a 100% of MA apparently voted for her.fucking elizabeth warren, guess I shouldnt be that surprised they voted to keep kennedy and menino in for so longso the safeguard is gone, romney must win if we're to keep this country in good shape.Dont know about the others like Levy who's supposedly a good man along with the rest of them.but atleast question 1 passed so legally they're going to have to give you the repair codes for modern cars if your working on them in your garage.

[COOPER&BURNETT]

Well, Obama won.

[DJWannaB]

Well' date=' Obama won.[/quote']I think this country just put a gun in its mouth.

[Kavinsky]

Guess some people have to learn the hardway, what can I do?Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty in the name of temporary safety deserve neither, they get what they deserve. its just a shame I'm on the same ship.ah well sometimes the bad guys win, we'll get them in the end.

[grave_digga]

My candidate has won.

[COOPER&BURNETT]

Guess some people have to learn the hardway' date=' what can I do?Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty in the name of temporary safety deserve neither.[/quote']Well Kavinsky, the U.S. has now changed. People want handouts, re-distribution, and want continued high unemployment, and record debt. It's a different era now. That's what America now wants, and will get. It has spoken.Remember the line from STAR WARS ATTACK OF THE CLONES at the Senate when Padmé says with disbelief, "So this is how liberty dies: ...With thunderous applause....."

[COOPER&BURNETT]

My candidate has won.

You voted in the U.S. election??

[Tekka]

Well Kavinsky' date=' the U.S. has now changed. People want handouts, re-distribution, and want continued high unemployment, and record debt. It's a different era now. That's what America now wants, and will get. It has spoken.Remember the line from STAR WARS ATTACK OF THE CLONES at the Senate when Padmé says with disbelief, "So this is how liberty dies: ...With thunderous applause....."[/quote']"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one."—Charles Mackay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds, 1841

[COOPER&BURNETT]

Congratulations to those members who voted for President Obama. Your candidate won fair and square.

[Kavinsky]

Well I've got a few options atleast, all hope is not lost but people will have to learn the hard way that neither party is qualified to run the country really.the republicans were the lesser of two evils, but I guess with Bush so badly handling the war on terror it was only natural that people want to give the other side a go all the way.its just a shame that this came from a bunch of intelligence failures from the clinton era and a bunch of religious people getting lucky and successfully hijacking a bunch of aircraft with a cardboard box opener. thinking all they wanted was money and some sort of free pass out of the country I guess, thining they would hope they would open communications and try and get something out of the goverment for the hostages. not crash the aircraft into something.should have followed the Israeli air marshal thing years ago when the Taliban started up in the 1980's long before that incident.but who knows, maybe obama's massive failures will lead to the rising popularity of that tea party group that was mentioned in passing awhile back.he cant do anything without money, no matter how much he huffs and puffs, just screw everything up with red tape.honestly though I'm thinking the best thing to do now is head to Canada and get away from all of this.

[Sonny-Burnett]

Too little too late. The Romney campaign did not do nearly enough to hammer Obama on his abysmal economic performance and the looming fiscal cliff. Nor did they do an effective job in swing states like Ohio countering the months of endless lies in attack ads about Romney wanting to let the auto industry go "bankrupt". In fact, Obama himself took GM and Chrysler through bankruptcy under Chapter 11 as well but his campaign of course failed to mention that "little" fact. Chapter 11 Bankruptcy as Romney referred to is a legal process relating to managing a restructuring of a business under bankruptcy guidelines in the courts, as many businesses have done in the past and still do everyday, and then many of these same businesses emerge stronger and more competitive through cost reductions and restructuring. But the Obama campaign lied about Romney's position for months in negative attack ads all over the swing states, falsely portraying Romney as someone who would let the auto industry die (not the same as Chapter 11). In fact, Romney advocated the same solution as Obama and even included government guarantees. (More here http://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2012/11/03/obamas-own-let-detroit-go-bankrupt-destroys-foundation-of-campaign/ )And the lies never ended. And now we have the Liar-in-Chief in office to wreak four more years of havoc on the economy and business in general. But most importantly, and most critically, I'd also like to "thank" the Mainstream News Media for failing to do their jobs in providing objective and independent news reporting to the masses for the last 4+ years. One author also agrees.Five ways the mainstream media tipped the scales in favor of Obama By Rich Noyes Published November 07, 2012 "Fox News and other media outlets have projected that President Obama has been reelected to a second term. If, in celebrating his victory Obama wanted to give credit where credit is due, he might want to think about calling some of America's top journalists, since their favorable approach almost certainly made the difference between victory and defeat. Reviewing the 2012 presidential campaign, here are five ways the media elite tipped the public relations scales in favor of the liberal Obama and against the conservative challenger Mitt Romney: 1. The Media’s Biased Gaffe Patrol Hammered Romney: The media unfairly jumped on inconsequential mistakes — or even invented controversies — from Romney and hyped them in to multi-day media “earthquakes.” Case in point: the GOP candidate’s trip to Europe and Israel in late July. A Media Research Center analysis of all 21 ABC, CBS and NBC evening news stories about Romney’s trip found that virtually all of them (18, or 86%) emphasized “diplomatic blunders,” “gaffes” or “missteps.” Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer blasted the news coverage in an August 2 column, calling the trip “a major substantive success” that was wrapped “in a media narrative of surpassing triviality.” Similarly, when the left-wing Mother Jones magazine in September put out a secretly-recorded video of Romney talking to donors about the 47% of Americans who don’t pay income taxes, the networks hyped it like a sensational sex scandal. Over three days, the broadcast network morning and evening shows churned out 42 stories on the tape, nearly 90 minutes of coverage. The tone was hyperbolic; ABC’s "Good Morning America" called it a “bombshell rocking the Mitt Romney campaign,” while ABC "World News" anchor Diane Sawyer declared it a “political earthquake.” None of Obama’s gaffes garnered that level of coverage. After the president in a June 8 press conference declared that “the private sector is doing fine,” the ABC, CBS and NBC evening newscasts gave it just one night’s coverage, then basically dropped the story — nothing further on ABC’s "World News" or the "CBS Evening News" in the weeks that followed, and just two passing references on the "NBC Nightly News." And, when Obama infamously declared, “You didn’t build that,” ABC, CBS, NBC didn’t report the politically damaging remark for four days — and then only after Romney made it the centerpiece of a campaign speech. 2. Pounding Romney With Partisan Fact Checking: There’s nothing wrong with holding politicians accountable for the honesty of their TV ads and stump speeches, but this year the self-appointed media fact-checkers attacked Republicans as liars for statements that were accurate. For example, a Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reporter writing for PolitiFact branded VP candidate Paul Ryan’s convention speech anecdote about the closing of the General Motors plant in his hometown as “false,” even though Ryan was correct in all of his details. The slanted review became TV reporters’ talking points; the next day on NBC, correspondent Chuck Todd grumped that while what Ryan said “was technically factual, by what he left out, [he] actually distorted the actual truth.” Matt Lauer greeted Ryan the following week in an interview on Today: “There are some people who are claiming that you played a little fast and loose with the truth....” The same thing happened when Mitt Romney talked about Obama’s “apology tour” during the final presidential debate. While in 2009 Obama had, in fact, criticized the United States as “arrogant,” “derisive” and having “too often... set [our] principles aside,” the networks said to call it an “apology tour” was “false” because, as CNN’s John Berman tenuously insisted, “even if he was critical of past U.S. foreign policy, he issued no apologies.” Writing in the New York Times August 31, correspondent Jackie Calmes scolded that “the number of falsehoods and misleading statements from the Romney campaign coming in for independent criticism has reached a level not typically seen.” That’s not true, either; Romney’s team was, at worst, guilty of highlighting those facts that best illustrated their points (something done by all politicians), and the Obama campaign certainly put out their share of tawdry TV ads and dubious campaign claims. But with “truth cops” who mainly policed just the GOP side of the street, the media used “fact-checking” as another club to tilt the playing field in favor of the Democrats. 3. Those Biased Debate Moderators: Upset liberals scorned PBS’s Jim Lehrer for taking a hands-off approach in the first debate on October 3, with MSNBC analyst Howard Fineman slamming him as “practically useless” for not jumping into the debate on behalf of President Obama. Such criticism may have encouraged the activist approach taken by ABC’s Martha Raddatz in the vice presidential debate October 11, and by CNN’s Candy Crowley in the October 16 town hall debate, as both of those journalists repeatedly interrupted the Republican candidate and larded the discussion with a predominantly liberal agenda. Crowley earns extra demerits for taking the media’s penchant for faulty fact-checking to new heights when she jumped into the October 16 town hall-style debate to validate President Obama’s claim that he called the attack in Benghazi, Libya, “an act of terror” the very next morning. Crowley endorsed Obama’s story, telling Romney: “He did, in fact, sir, call it an act of terror.” Not according to the transcript, which had Obama only speaking generically about how “no acts of terror will ever shake the resolve of this nation,” not assigning that label to the violence in Benghazi. Wrong though she was, Crowley became a heroine to many in the liberal media; ABC's Matt Dowd, for example, cheered: “What Candy Crowley did, I actually thought, was laudable....I hope we get to do more of that in this discourse.” Moderators are supposed to ensure both sides get a fair hearing, not pick sides. By leaping into the fray, Candy Crowley epitomized the media’s itch to tilt the scales this year — again, in Obama’s favor. 4. The Benghazi Blackout: Right after the September 11 attack in Libya, the networks proclaimed that the events would bolster President Obama — “reminding voters of his power as commander-in-chief,” as NBC’s Peter Alexander stated on the September 14 edition of "Today." But as a cascade of leaked information erased the portrait of Obama as a heroic commander, the broadcast networks shunted the Benghazi story to the sidelines. News broke online in late September, for example, that Team Obama knew within 24 hours that the attack was likely the result of terrorism. That starkly contradicted claims from White House press secretary Jay Carney, U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, and President Obama himself that the attack was a “spontaneous” reaction to an anti-Muslim video posted on YouTube. Yet, ABC took nearly two days to bring this story to viewers, while CBS and NBC held off for three days. This was, shamefully, the broadcast networks’ pattern in October: New developments exposing the administration’s failure to provide adequate security, or contradictions in their public statements, were either given stingy coverage or buried completely. The puzzle pieces revealed a disturbing failure of Obama’s national security apparatus, but the networks flitted in and out of the story, never giving it any traction. Instead of an “October Surprise,” the networks engineered an “October Suppression” — keeping a lid on the boiling Benghazi story until Election Day. Who knows how voters might have reacted if the media had covered this story as tenaciously as they did Romney’s “47% gaffe”? 5. Burying the Bad Economy: Pundits agreed that Obama’s weakness was the failure of the US economy to revive after his expensive stimulus and four years of $1 trillion deficits. But the major networks failed to offer the sustained, aggressive coverage of the economy that incumbent Republican President George H.W. Bush faced in 1992, or even that George W. Bush faced in 2004 — both years when the national economy was in better shape than it is now. According to a study conducted that year by the Center for Media and Public Affairs, from January through September of 1992, the networks ran a whopping 1,289 stories on the economy, 88% of which painted it in a dismal, negative light. That fall, the unemployment rate was 7.6%, lower than today’s 7.9%, and economic growth in the third quarter was 2.7%, better than today’s 2.0%. Yet the media coverage hammered the idea of a terrible economy, and Bush lost re-election. In 2004, the economy under George W. Bush was far better than it is today — higher growth, lower unemployment, smaller deficits and cheaper gasoline — yet network coverage that year was twice as hostile to Bush than it was towards Obama this year, according to a study by the Media Research Center’s Business and Media Institute. When Republican presidents have faced reelection, network reporters made sure to spotlight economic “victims” — the homeless man, the woman without health insurance, the unemployed worker, the senior citizen who had to choose between medicine and food. But this year, with an economy as bad as any since the Great Depression, those sympathetic anecdotes have vanished from the airwaves — a huge favor to Obama and the Democrats. Given Obama’s record, the Romney campaign could have overcome much of this media favoritism and still prevailed — indeed, they almost did. But taken together, these five trends took the media’s historical bias to new levels this year, and saved Obama’s presidency in the process." Rich Noyes, is research director for the Media Research Center.One can only hope that Obama's acceptance speech last night where he spoke of reaching across the aisles to the other side was honest, but his campaign over the last 18 months was anything but honest.

[grave_digga]

You voted in the U.S. election??

Not really but that's what i've been voted if i could place a vote.

[Tony D.]

Everyone can now Relax.......Big Bird is Safe, for 4 More Years. God Help America!

[Pandina]

Well' date=' Obama won.[/quote']and as Romney said, the USA will become like Italy.(trust me it's not that bad! )

[Ferrariman]

Has anyone else had enough of the election yet? My apologies Sonny-Burnett, that's last post is just too damn much to read!

[Kavinsky]

Oughta have played this at Obama's gloat speech:

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E3Ho8NLtKM

either that or this one:

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=56u6g0POvo0

I wish you sincerely the worst Mr. Obama, along with your cronies, may you guys have the same kinda luck as the morris marinas on top gear.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhr-Zi4oznghmph first time I've ever wished ill on someone actually.and hopefully he doesnt get enough money to mess anything else up as time goes on, purely from self sabotage.but yeah I'm pretty much done with this, thank god I dont have to see those bloody political ads while browsing youtube anymore though. they poped up pretty much everytime you opened a video or a series of them.or the ads on TV, now its going to be Christmas stuff in a month but atleast this month is going to be free of the bloody political ads.and new burn notice to look to but it seems to be running out of ideas and not holding my interest anymore and the advertising department of the USA network seriously needs to be shot, those ads make me wanna NOT watch the programs on there.and they have some good shows too besides burn notice but my god the advertising is too much.but back to normal hopefully.

[Sonny-Burnett]

bad news on the homefront for me' date=' that xxtch won by some huge number, damn near a 100% of MA apparently voted for her.xxxking elizabeth warren, guess I shouldnt be that surprised they voted to keep kennedy and menino in for so long[/quote']Hey, I was able to find a snapshot of your new Senator elect. [ATTACH=CONFIG]7092[/ATTACH]

[Sonny-Burnett]

Has anyone else had enough of the election yet? My apologies Sonny-Burnett' date=' that's last post is just too damn much to read! [/quote']Yeah I could have just posted the link as I didn't look to see how large the article was. But compared to some posts in the Daytona thread mine here looks not so long. :DToo much of the election and the run-up to it for sure is Act 1. And Act 2 now is the Fiscal Cliff, or Sequestration, which will happen in 56 days unless...

[Pink Flaming0]

Only 32% of registered Republicans voted yesterday. :confused: