Sonny-Burnett Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I saw this movie just recently for the first time (yes I'm a bit late) and watched it on on Blu-ray on a home theater. Having been a die hard Connery fan for many years and only slowly warming to Craig as Bond, I have to say this movie was very well done. I thought Craig had really stepped into the role and grown into it since Casino Royale, and even the poorly received Quantum of Solace does not seem to have slowed him down in this one. Craig seems to have developed his own version of Bond, comfortable in the role, and imo is not that different than the one imagined by Fleming in his novels...tough, edgy, not particularly handsome (some may disagree on that about Craig) or outgoing. It also took me a number of Bond films for me to warm up to Dench in the role of M and sadly she left it in this one after a lengthy run ...I think since doing Goldeneye back in 1995. I liked the direction in this film of challenging whether the MI6 branch and its operatives may be becoming obsolete in favor of technology, as Silva (played by Bardeem) seemed to be pointing us toward and for which M was seemingly on trial for the failings of her branch. I did think bringing in the young computer geek as the new Q made for a strange and awkward conversation between Q and Bond and not sure how that will play out going forward. The movie highlighted the apparent connection that had developed between Bond and M, and in this one we were even allowed to see Bond get emotional at her death. I did not think that there was a whole lot of chemistry between Bond and Harris as Moneypenny and wonder if that will last into the next film. The locations were excellent as well, shuttling us from Turkey and the fantastic opening scene stunts, to London, and Shanghai where I was fooled into believing the scenes were shot there, and I have made a number of trips to Shanghai. And Hashima island which was actually filmed on Macao, another location made up to look like somewhere else. And of course a lot of the action was filmed in English soundstages made to look like Shanghai and other locales.I also liked the the apparent respect for the legacy of earlier Bonds and you could not miss the Astin Martin DB5 from Goldfinger days. Music was excellent and this is one I will watch a number of times . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
menno112 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I am a huge Bond fan also. Possibly even more a Bond fan than a vice fan. I am especially a fan of the old Connery movies, I must have watched them 100's of times. Pure class!The Moore movies were in terms of quality the least, although still enjoyable. The Dalton ones were a bit boring, but I admire Dalton for attempting to play Bond like in the novels. Brosnan was a great Bond, but the material he had to work with was mediocre at times. With Die another day as an absolute lowpoint. Craig in that respect is much more lucky. I am not a fan of Craig as Bond. I still think he looks more like a Russian thug, than a British gentleman spy. But both Casino Royale and especially Skyfall were good movies. Skyfall was a great movie, in the style of the old Connery ones. I loved the ending with the new M, in his 'old' office, like the ones from the Connery days.Btw, probably my favourite Bond movie is the Lazenby one. Great story, not too many gadgets, great villain and the best soundtrack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavinsky Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I have to admit this is the first film with Craig for me where I thought of Bond as a service man rather than a hired thug/hitman, like he has in the past couple of films for me. partly because of how he tries to save his fellow serviceman before he bleeds out at the start before he was ordered away by M.which is something I think they were keen to show in a few of the earlier films, namely with goldfinger. where I remember after the girl got it with the hat instead of running Connery's bond actually stopped to see if she was still alive rather than trying to run away after the first half of the chase with the DB5.only to get half captured at firstso I think that kind of sealed the deal for me with him as bond, like he finally acts like this is a job rather than a hit with a few people strung along that he'll never see again. which was also something I liked about the earlier films, you always saw not unlike in the first and third indiana jones film the same charachter in a minor role a few years down the line usually with people like felix lighter.with M I dont know I've seen judi dench before in other british shows and play's so it wasnt that hard for me to buy her as the replacement for M back then, although the new one seems a little flat and almost like a stereotype. I kind of hope they recast someone else in that role for the next one, namely someone along the lines of a Winston Churchill like figure like the original M. as for the new Q I dont know I'm kind of glad they went back to sort of a grass routes Q again like he used to be with something abit more low tech with that radio, although that weird PPK/S was just a shoe in really.although weirdly apparently it might become a reality someday at 1:55: just in a modified form.as for him being Q well I dont know he looks a little to pop idolish for the job but its the youngsters who grow up with technology that will be the new Q's of tomorrow. not the more mechanically apt of the past so it kind of makes sense in a way. Moneypenny now that was just unnecessary and I half expected when I saw the old set for him to walk into the room wearing a hat which I think he hasnt done since 1967that was just silly, and in modern england with its Hoplophobia (irrational fear of weapons) why was bond allowed to drive around with a car with .30 caliber machine guns on itand with them live at all times I might add. Actually here recently the ATF did not allow a man to put working .50 calls on a flying P51 mustang here in the US so why does he get a pass to do that WITH A CAR? you know something that see's traffic everyday?FYI it was in a recently flying magazine, he actually wanted to fire the cannons of the P51 although he can only do that on the ground thankfully, I also remember it had an article about Carrol Shelby in it hence why I was reading it, turns out he was a very big aviation man, hence why the cobra was so damn fighterplane like. anyways and a walther P38/Mauser C96 tucked under the seat in that secret compartment that the car had.if it is the car from goldfinger I might add, as he just pulled a walther P38 out of nowhere during the first part of the aston chase in that film.I mean what did they just find the car burried in the back of Q branch and were in the midst of decommissioning it or something for auction? hence the removal of the license plates and he just didnt know till whoops what does this button do when the bad guys were walking up?otherwise why not remove one of the .30 Calls from one of the front fender and use it to defend the house?just kinda gets all the more funny when you think about it, like was Q planning on sneaking it out of M16 for his own personal use when he found it burred back there and bond just walked in on him?I mean really the DBS's of the past two films didnt really have anything offensive mounted to them when it came to weapons, why did bond all of a sudden come across a fully loaded and ready to go to war DB5 with machine guns on it?and why not use the smoke screen on it to level the playing field? and why isnt that on the DBS's? he could have really used that in quantum and it wouldnt require that much modification to pull off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D. Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I am a huge Bond fan also. Possibly even more a Bond fan than a vice fan. I am especially a fan of the old Connery movies' date=' I must have watched them 100's of times. Pure class!The Moore movies were in terms of quality the least, although still enjoyable. The Dalton ones were a bit boring, but I admire Dalton for attempting to play Bond like in the novels. Brosnan was a great Bond, but the material he had to work with was mediocre at times. With Die another day as an absolute lowpoint. Craig in that respect is much more lucky. I am not a fan of Craig as Bond. I still think he looks more like a Russian thug, than a British gentleman spy. But both Casino Royale and especially Skyfall were good movies. Skyfall was a great movie, in the style of the old Connery ones. I loved the ending with the new M, in his 'old' office, like the ones from the Connery days.Btw, probably my favourite Bond movie is the Lazenby one. Great story, not too many gadgets, great villain and the best soundtrack.[/quote']Hey, Menno...good to see you again, my friend. I agree with most of your comments except Lazenby would be low on my list for Bond. The other thing I wanted to say is ....the reason you feel you are more a fan of Bond than Miami Vice could be because they never stopped presenting new Bond films and Bond actors over the years , but Miami Vice saw one poor revival movie in 2006. A big disappointment for most Vice fans. It's the lack of MV exposure! :thumbsdown:For me, Sean Connery is James Bond with Brosnan coming in 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators KaeptnCaipi Posted March 5, 2013 Administrators Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 I'm a big James Bond fan since I saw it the first time.Just watching Skyfall right now (received my BluRay today; thanks to Amazon) and to me it's one of the best James Bond movies ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted March 5, 2013 Report Share Posted March 5, 2013 Casino Royale, and even the poorly received Quantum of Solace does not seem to have slowed him down in this one. Craig seems to have developed his own version of Bond, comfortable in the role, and imo is not that different than the one imagined by Fleming in his novels...tough, edgy, not particularly handsome (some may disagree on that about Craig) or outgoing. It also took me a number of Bond films for me to warm up to Dench in the role of M and sadly she left it in this one after a lengthy run ...I think since doing Goldeneye back in 1995. I liked the direction in this film of challenging whether the MI6 branch and its operatives may be becoming obsolete in favor of technology, as Silva (played by Bardeem) seemed to be pointing us toward and for which M was seemingly on trial for the failings of her branch. I did think bringing in the young computer geek as the new Q made for a strange and awkward conversation between Q and Bond and not sure how that will play out going forward. The movie highlighted the apparent connection that had developed between Bond and M, and in this one we were even allowed to see Bond get emotional at her death. I did not think that there was a whole lot of chemistry between Bond and Harris as Moneypenny and wonder if that will last into the next film. The locations were excellent as well, shuttling us from Turkey and the fantastic opening scene stunts, to London, and Shanghai where I was fooled into believing the scenes were shot there, and I have made a number of trips to Shanghai. And Hashima island which was actually filmed on Macao, another location made up to look like somewhere else. And of course a lot of the action was filmed in English soundstages made to look like Shanghai and other locales.I also liked the the apparent respect for the legacy of earlier Bonds and you could not miss the Astin Martin DB5 from Goldfinger days. Music was excellent and this is one I will watch a number of times . Great movie and mini review Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D. Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Since I've been hearing good reviews about Skyfall, I do intend to rent it, although I don't like Daniel Craig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavinsky Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 Since I've been hearing good reviews about Skyfall' date=' I do intend to rent it, although I don't like Daniel Craig. [/quote']well with Craig I saw him in Layer Cake beforehand so I knew he is a damn good actor. I just didnt like how they pulled a Bale Batman with James Bond, I mean even at the start he was supposed to be a seasoned service man, not a hired thugand all that just because of the failure of Die another day, when it was just the failure of the writing and directing of that film and bad timing that hurt its box office returns, you know it was going against lord of the rings and star trek.and both bond and star trek got badly hurt by it, hell actually Nemesis was written by the same guy who worked on Skyfall according to the IMDB in an odd twist actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger390X Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I love the Bond franchise...I still like Connery as the classic Bond but I have to admit that Craig has taken the role and the storyline to a new dimension. The trilogy is fabulous, the stunts outstanding and the locations are all "Bondesque" We see the world of Bond and also the geography.I was not a fan of Dalton and quite frankly hated Bronznon and Lazenby. Moore was too flambouyant as Bond as I don't believe a secret agent would be so loud and obnoctious as to wear some of the close Moore wore in his epidosdes. Bond did not want bring attention to himself but just get the job done. Moore was actually funny looking in that era.I love the Bond trilogy of new and hope they can write a new episode again with the aging Bond and focus on what a secret agent does after field work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted March 7, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 I love the Bond franchise...I still like Connery as the classic Bond but I have to admit that Craig has taken the role and the storyline to a new dimension. The trilogy is fabulous' date=' the stunts outstanding and the locations are all "Bondesque" We see the world of Bond and also the geography.I was not a fan of Dalton and quite frankly hated Bronznon and Lazenby. Moore was too flambouyant as Bond as I don't believe a secret agent would be so loud and obnoctious as to wear some of the close Moore wore in his epidosdes. Bond did not want bring attention to himself but just get the job done. Moore was actually funny looking in that era.I love the Bond trilogy of new and hope they can write a new episode again with the aging Bond and focus on what a secret agent does after field work.[/quote']I'm with you Stinger for the most part. Not a fan of Dalton who almost seemed bored in the role and, though an improvement over Moore's comedic and frankly lame version of Bond, Brosnan didn't quite do it for me either. Lazenby was ok I suppose though his one shot didn't leave a lasting impression on me. Bond in the novels was a much more edgy, gritty and tough character. For that reason I have come around to Craig in his interpretation of Bond though I am still a diehard Connery fan in the role. And in Skyfall I did like the various tips of the hat to previous Bonds, to the similarity of this villain to past villains, to M's office, to the DB5, and Moneypenny returning, though I don't think Harris will last in the role. The aging of Bond? I think he (Craig) still has some miles left on the odometer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D. Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Quote Stinger : " Craig has taken the role and the storyline to a new dimension. The trilogy is fabulous, the stunts outstanding and the locations are all "Bondesque" We see the world of Bond and also the geography."-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I agree with the cool locations & geography...but the stunts are so humanly impossible, that it makes Bond look like the Bugs Bunny cartoons where they fall off a mountain or get blown up and just skake themselves off and start running again.Look at the opening of Quantum of Solace. Jumping off sky hooks etc. and nobody's even out of breath!Sean Connery's battles were much more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Quote Stinger : " Craig has taken the role and the storyline to a new dimension. The trilogy is fabulous' date=' the stunts outstanding and the locations are all "Bondesque" We see the world of Bond and also the geography."-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------I agree with the cool locations & geography...but the stunts are so humanly impossible, that it makes Bond look like the Bugs Bunny cartoons where they fall off a mountain or get blown up and just skake themselves off and start running again.Look at the opening of Quantum of Solace. Jumping off sky hooks etc. and nobody's even out of breath!Sean Connery's battles were much more realistic. [/quote']Love Skyfall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsEvanFreed Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Skyfall was a vast improvement over QOS, which I didn't care for. Great villain, plus I liked that "M" was the Bond Girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Calderon Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 Hi ppz. I bought the DVD. Great theme. Great trailler. Boring movie. Daniel Craig has much more "physique du role" as a KGB agent than a british one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alleycat Posted April 26, 2014 Report Share Posted April 26, 2014 I did enjoy this movie specially this scene Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Calderon Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 Naomi Harris (from the Miami Vice movie crap) was in Skyfall cast...blargh. I just watched two of the new franchise movies with Craig as Bond. Of course, much better produced than those old ones. But, what about the ideas? Octopussy´s intro part, with a jet plane passing thru the hangar, is much better than a James Bond fighting over a train roof or doing parkour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent 47 Posted April 30, 2014 Report Share Posted April 30, 2014 (edited) Hi ppz. I bought the DVD. Great theme. Great trailler. Boring movie. Daniel Craig has much more "physique du role" as a KGB agent than a british one.It's funny you mention the KGB agent thing as if you google Daniel Craig and Vladimir Putin there are tons of comparisons on how they look alike. BTW, for Pierce Brosnan fans, you might want to keep an eye out for this spy film later this year, The November Man.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2402157/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1 Edited March 28, 2015 by agent 47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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