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NEW LOCATION FOUND: BURNETT´S HOUSE The Calling all Detectives Location Thread paid off (all details about how we found it is there to read). Another mystery solved in one day of focused team effort after years of fruitless searching! 6 eyes are better than 2! Main credit goes to Lead Detective @daytona365 who was convinced at first and had a suspected address incl. great sketch plus persistency, with some assistant Dr. Watson job done by @C Glide and me to verify although we were non-believers at first and had originally dumped that house. Thanks to the team, this case was fun to solve and had some lessons learned for me as well (I overlooked some very important details in my location sketch, but the team-members did luckily not and convinced me to look again!) 710 Harbor Drive, Key Biscayne Main clues to find it was the location (long island, waterway, tip of land) and the specifics of the house (octangular structure, of building and pool, hottub, columns, spiral staircase). Proof pics summary is below. Unfortunately, there are no interior pics available. The house was re-erected 1987 (the original house of 1969 was torn down or completely remodeled) and has been extended/remodeled after 1988 when MV filmed there. ENJOY!

Just got to work and spoke with my friend that grew up on KB. He and his brother as kids walked every inch of that island as kids fishing the shoreline all the way around. His favorite fishing spot was on Nixon's heli-pad we saw used several times in Vice. Back when the secret service was more relaxed about that stuff. Even has a great story about when the SS helped him land an 11 foot hammerhead on the pad using a chain and Nixon got mad. He states for sure that this is the house as he use to fish in that backyard as well. Cheers.

This is the link to SDG, the company that designed and built the Soliz house in 1985. They even have a reference to the MV episode on the site and a previously unknown picture of the Soliz house. Enjoy! http://summadg.com/index.php?section=residential For those who are interested to understand what happened where exactly in that episode on that location: on the far left edge of this picture is the white fence that Jack Crockett climbed over when he sneaked in to rip off Soliz. That fence is gone now on Google Earth. The scenes where Jack watches Soliz men unloading that was filmed on the opposite, right side of the house (here blocked by a brown wall and palm trees).

as we discussed the vertical columns of the Burnett house: this type of column "outriggers" were obviously very popular in those days. Attached is a photo from a house deep south in Pinecrest, also built in 1987. It never appeared in MV, but it has the same columns, most probably also with a roof although not visible here. Same architect?

I think if you look closely that the spiral staircase is even still there, partially hidden by the trees. Not to mention the octagonal window in the exact right spot, that's also a dead giveaway. And the octagonal shape of the hot tub. The original designer or owner seems to have had a big love for that. you can twitter the current owner too, or post a message on is FB. I don't have accounts there myself, so I can't. He doesn't seem to be very active there though. https://twitter.com/harbordrive710 https://www.facebook.com/karl.stenstrom.9

No luck tonight anywhere else. I dismissed it before but 710 Harbor Drive KB is still the best find so far. As I study it more I have become about 97% sure that is the place. So much matches up. Right compass orientation, white out building in right spot (that is a biggie), hot tub in right spot, angles on pool correct, tree at north end of pool in right spot, multiple columns in right spot, roof shapes are right for what we see inside, rectangular look of roof in SE corner is deceptive as it appears to cover an outdoor area that we see in the ep. and I suspected that this maybe the case when watching the ep. What are the columns doing there if not supporting such a roof. Tomorrow I will ask a friend who grew up down the street if he has been in there to see if he knows the house. (He is the one who showed me the Caddyshack house just over on S Mashta Drive which I have not published yet.)

More obviously, the shark in Blood and Roses is a hammer head, and the one in Phil the Shill is not.

The shark in "Blood and Roses" doesn't have a small fin in the upper right side of the body like this one and the tail looks larger in this shot.

Hey MV Family, hope all is well!

Thanks! Good to know, but the evidence is overwhelming anyway!

Not bad, for 9 days of detective work! 3 major locations found out of a dozen unknown cases (and the 4th location found, the "consulate" in Rites of passage is not even mentioned in above list!). If we go on like that we´ll nail down all of them this before the end of summer!

DAMN you are RIGHT! I overlooked that! The spiral staircase is still there! I´ll update the picture and change it! UPDATE: I have updated the aerial pic with the staircase. That means we have found it! NO WAY that the pool and building octagonal shape, the vertical exterior columns, the spiral staircase and the waterway surrounding all can be a coincidence! the appearance of the staircase (fully filled white guiderail) fits too.the vertical columns are thicker now but that makes sense since they must carry more static weight now of extended rooms underneath roof. BURNETT HOUSE, 710 HARBOR DRIVE; KEY BISCAYNE Congratulations gents - @daytona365 and @C Glide! Great detective team effort! Let´s wait for C Glide´s comment on that. If he agrees too, I think we can post this location as found in the episode thread! @airtommy @Matt5@miamijimf

I am trying to set the puzzle pieces together in the right place, also visually now. I think we are inching to the final verdict that this IS or better WAS the house (although I was negative about it originally). Remark: I partly borrowed @daytona365´s great pool recreation graphics. Sorry for "highjacking" this but it helps a lot to vizualize! The tip of land that disturbed me (too developed, angle) can be explained. As Historic aerials 1986 proves the last two houses were not there, thus it appeared as green tip of land behind El Gato and the angle fits as well bearing in mind exact camera position on El Gato gives some room for flexibility and cannot re-created with Google Earth exactly.

Working on the RIB house right now but as I look at these screen captures I saw something that leads me to a certain area. Seems a bit far fetched but I will follow the lead next after another RIB house search. Anyone check out Wellington yet?

Exactly. You described it well. They still had some of the well known elements, which made Vice famous like the use of music and nontraditional camera angles, but the issue is just that it wasn't presented in the same magical way, not even Miami, as when MM was still at Vice and the old production crew before handing the control over to Dick Wolf. It wasn't their primary focus. As they wanted to make more serious storylines, so all of the flash was pushed in the background. But I also think the NBC executives were responsible for the new direction of season 3. To me a few episodes had the old S1 and S2 vibe with certain scenes. And I also like, when they brought back the humor in this very dark toned and depressing season, which was also an important part of MV and made it feel more natural and balanced, when there was some of both. And also they didn't have new music by JH to create those certain emotions and feel to a scene, nor were the old tunes used much.

He wore a different hat. But it was this guy in "Theresa," wearing Crockett's hat from "Calderone's Return" pt 2.

The key detail is that the right part of the wall is not parallel to the street. I think the house is not parallel to the street either, so I've been looking for diagonal streets. I've searched Brickell and South Beach many times but couldn't find it.

Do we all agree that attached to the south east corner of the pool is a hot tub and that is why the corner is rounded. Looks like a hot tub to me.

the house in 86 looks totally different, there's no octaconal center, no pool, no jetty, there are only two perpendicular wings. The aerial for 1995 is a blurry nightmare but seems to show something closer to current but still different. This matches however with your statement that the house was at max 3 years old at the time of filming. Proximity to water impression could be due to heigth and camera angle and I don't quite get what you mean with the angle to the tip of land. IMO this matches quite well. I'm not ditching this and will continue to investigate. View from the house towards tip of land:

Thanks to Steve-B for telling me about "Poshmark.com", I have A TON of clothes I'm looking at in that Vice style. Jackets, pants, and shoes (I'm good on shirts already). I recently snagged a nice, lightweight, medium-gray blazer that fits me perfectly for only $27. I'll post pics on my thread here on the board in the near future. I suggest anyone looking for some more vintage clothes to check out that site.

Yes!!! Great call!!! We don't really see the back hallway in that Red Tape scene, but we do see beyond the 206 door. In Red Tape the camera moves backward through the 206 door and then over into Room 202. The other door to Room 202 can be seen here from the locker hallway. It's the door right next to Sonny's face. 203 Accounting (next to Tubbs's head) opens into the OCB kitchen area.

In "By Hooker By Crook" Room 202 is "Communications":