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What is sad for me is back when I was in high school I met a guy who became my best friend and he was politically the polar opposite of me. Years later we became roommates and would have very intelligent conversations about politics. Some ways it could be described as spirited debates. BUT that never led to yelling or fist fights. We never let our beliefs ruin our friendship. We would listen to each others viewpoints, have a counter point then move on. Unfortunately that friend died of drug and alcohol abuse. Today, as a person who runs his own business, I never discuss politics with clients. I have customers who run the gambit of the political spectrum and do not want to lose them as clients so I keep my mouth zipped. I miss the old days.

That's great Tom. Pretty soon you'll have to switch to looking for Burn Notice locations to keep going.

Coconut Grove it is! An easy 5 minute find. Why haven´t we found that earlier? This time no special proof needed, as it is a clear case! @miamijimf @daytona365 @Matt5 @airtommy UNKNOWN LOCATION FOUND: THE ESPINOZA HOUSE 2800 Emathla Street, Coconut Grove There are lots of good realtor pictures that speak for themselves to prove that this was the location. Built in 1986, just opened before filming. All matches up, the unique pool shape with the small island, the round white fence on the corner with the vegetation behind. The triangle roof with hole in it, the glass brick walls, the wooden door (ugly brown now instead of white), etc... House was obviously refurnished with ugly brown kitchen replacing a white one and the yellow-blue tile pattern removed that we see in the episode. ENJOY! P.S. I think we have found all locations of this episode now. @C Glide has to update 20+ episodes on his site for newly found locations if my count is correct

You go as long as you can earn money with it. And even if you are 35th in US ratings as in season 4 you can still have a sufficient audience number in the US and abroad-Vice was sold to 50+ countries! And you don’t stop after three seasons as you needed 100 episodes as a rule of thumb for successful syndication which recoups production cost as happened in 89 when they sold it to USA network.

Definitely a missed opportunity of an episode!

And that's one of the biggest flaws with Vice in my view. By the time they FINALLY got around to really exploring characters like Trudy and Switek, it was too late. Trudy singing should have happened much sooner, and the whole breakdown of Switek in Season 5 should have happened after Larry's murder. They waited too long...

I disliked this episode, too. But for me, Missing Hours was the absolute worst. It didn't belong on a show like Miami Vice. The premise was ridiculous and whole story made the actors look foolish. Of course, it was great to see James Brown, but that was it's only saving grace!

Tubb's kid? I agree about desision not to focus on a baby, ok. But it should have been smth to finish this line. Because fans are not fools and they showed the fans that the baby was stolen, not killed.

I agree about it being the producers/Dick Wolf who was in charge. And probably Michael Mann as well. Another example would be "Mothers Keeper" written about Sonny and Gina undercover as a married couple, trying to develop that relationships, but it wasn't picked for some reason... Coop shared the script in one of the threads. And I believe it was Michael Manns decision not to bring back Sonny's kid until the later seasons. Etc. The show took a new direction in S3. Maybe this wasn't what Dick Wolf personally wanted to focus on, he had a different goal with the storylines.

Try the producers. For all we know a writer proposed this and was shot down.

I think "Cows of October" is the low of the lowest. It just got to the point where the show ridiculed itself. But there are other episodes in this category as well.

Yesterday I noticed two interesting details about the funeral: 1. There is a door to the outside visible on the far left of the frame. 2. Right of the coffin is the left edge of a room-high window that has the same number of segments than the curved window in the second pic. In essence, I suspect that off-screen is ANOTHER curved room high window (six windows with 12 by 2 segments each that forms approx. a 45 degree angle in total) with a door to the outside in between the two curved windows. Together with the sunlight through the 2 small rectangular windows behind the coffin this means that this room has two sides to the outside world and at least half a yard on the third side. This is a very unique room shape that should be visible from outside, especially since the yard seems to have the street corner of the neighbor building visible on the far upper left of the curved garden window. The green silhouette outside seems to be caused by a single tree or bush rather than by massive greenery, so we are talking about a small yard between two buildings blocks rather than about a real garden. Are there any Art deco (the floor!) rooms of churches or public communities in Miami (Beach) that we should check? Maybe it´s not a MB hotel, as I haven´t seen anything like this in South Beach Hotels.

Apocalypse Now End of Watch For a Few Dollars More Dirty Harry Hamburger Hill Clerks Scarface John Wick Training Day Gran Torino If we're doing TV... The Shield Justified Longmire NCIS LA Cheers/Frasier (more or less a continuation in many ways) My Name is Earl Miami Vice Wild, Wild West Gunsmoke (the black and white episodes mostly)

The first 10 that come to mind—in no order: Rain Man Batman (1989) O Brother Where Art Thou? Drive The Godfather Scrooged Raising Arizona The Big Lebowski Star Wars Episode IV The Holiday

1. Manhunter (1986) 2. Thief (1981) 3. Blade Runner (1982) 4. Heat (1995) 5. To Live & Die In LA (1985) 6. Vertigo (1958) 7. GoodFellas (1990) 8. 12 Angry Men (1957) 9. Life of Brian (1979) 10. The Wailing (2016)

The main reason that things were not ever fully explained or resolved is new writers at the time. They basically “abandoned” previous storylines, and whatever happened to Tubbs’ baby is never stated. In this episode he thinks his son is dead, and he never finds out otherwise.

Checked Kendall and Glenvar Heights (all "green" areas west of Dixie) yesterday night and no find. Just to save you guys time from going over it again. I started there again because it struck me upon watching Crockett´s house in Kendall that it had the same trees and a mulched driveway next to the stepping tiles which I found an interesting similarity. It is interesting that in Kendall there are -in contrast to other Miami Dade areas - at least some houses with mulched driveways and similar branched trees like with Cooks home (Cooks home has a lot of these trees in front and on the side of the building and hardly any palm trees in front of it - as opposed to Coconut Grove by the way). There are also homes there built in 1987 that look very similar to other bauhaus style buildings used in VICE (DUFE house, Traynor villa). The cook house is a bit different in roofing and style (more 70s Bauhaus style) and I found a few similar buildings from the late 70s but that was it. One house was built in 1988 and would have fitted well in a VICE episode. Today, I will look into Coconut Grove, Coral Gables and Pinecrest, if anybody wants to coordinate search areas.

Nah it actually kind of looked green-ish teal in the old DVD's I think. The colours were off. But is corrected in later releases and current releases.

Missing hours gets my vote -J

Wow. 3 endings filmed? I had no idea! Was this reported in a magazine or something?

From what I’ve read 3 endings were filmed: Tubbs dies Tubbs & Crockett both die Tubbs & Crockett both live (obviously this is what we see) it would be nice to see these as bonus features in the BluRay but all we got was zilch

Ridiculous costumes? What ridiculous costumes??? I swear that outfit PMT is wearing reminds me of those optical illusion books that if you stare long enough you see 3D images! I might cherry pick an episode here or there, but I don't see either season 4 or 5 in its entirety appealing to him... and most (other than diehard MV fans.)

I just finished watching Hell Hath No Fury and I'm going to add that as one of the top 3 worst episodes ever made. Man, the episode sucks. Its a very badly written, directed, produced and acted episode. The guest stars, besides the hit man Hatch are poor actors. The episode is a real piece of crap.