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Behind the scenes of the wedding.

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Given the length and depth of their relationship as well as the many interpretations people have of each party's view and the relationship overall, I think they deserve their own thread. I have mine; I've fictionalized it at ongoing length. For now I'll just say... the show was good at being subtle. And confusing. And Saundra and Don had superlative chemistry. This is only part of what happens in "Whatever Works", just for example... She's laughing at him, but she's the only one who doesn't say anything mean to him... and they're wearing practically the exact same color... And more significantly: Uh, that's not how you stand with someone you've broken up with twice and told to stay out of your life not that long ago... there is actually enough space in the conference room for you not to be touching each other, you two... (but if you want to act like it's middle school and you're sneaking around in the back of the class, who am I to stop you)?

1235 Club (used in the pilot, Knock knock who´s there, Death and the lady, Honor among thieves, Deliver us from evil)

"Whatever Works, Part II" So, going back to the beginning of this episode, there's Crockett's nameless, semi-infamous, forgettable one-night-stand. Let's look at her a little more closely... "Please call me, Sonny"/ "Please dance with me, Sonny" Does he do either? No. Is it implied he's now feeling a lot more guilty about the latter? Yes. Is it also implied he probably slept with this random woman because under the influence she somehow seemed like Gina? Also yes. Do the Gina ties stop here? They don't. So as opposed to this time, where he's completely ignoring her, has to pick up a sordid mess from unfulfilling shenanigans, and loses the Daytona to boot... ...the last time we saw Sonny in his (blue, more optimistic, not-Daytona black) underpants at the crack of dawn on the boat, he was pretty damn involved and happy. And with good reason. Everybody was in such a good mood here that despite hearing about Barbara Caro's murder minutes later, Sonny holds onto this memory (as a positive) for a long, long time. TBC. As far as "Whatever Works" is concerned, though, it's a surprising amount of stuff to catch considering it's all in the background, it's not an episode about their relationship, and Gina doesn't even have any lines! Now multiply that by 100, literally...

Interesting! I had never heard of "Pier 5". https://www.floridamemory.com/items/show/323602 https://pbase.com/donboyd/image/78865337 They still have a replica sign there today: https://maps.app.goo.gl/wYc4FEUpBLAGZZtDA

I too watched the show when it was originally on, and many times over in the decades since. I fully agree that there was always a sexual, emotional, and even “deep” connection between Crockett & Gina. Whether it was planned that way (even after different writers had them supposedly fade out their relationship), or it was DJ & SS’s idea, or it just was there & was natural…the attraction & connection was definitely there! Even when Sonny was with Caitlin, the attraction with Gina was still present. I don’t necessarily think they had a sexual relationship much after they supposedly were done—around Season 3…but, I think they still wished for & wanted one, by how they were presented.

Happy birthday, @Kladdagh Enjoy your special day, of course with a few cold drinks.

Happy belated Birthday, Kladdagh! Hope you had a great day in a place where the water's warm and the drinks are cold!

Many Many Thanks my VICE Family ! ... It was a good day with my wife and brother & sisters ... Lot of fun Again, Thanks to all of you