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4994 Hammock Lake Dr in Hammock Lakes, Gables Estates \ South Miami featured in the teaser “ Deliver Us From Evil “ - I visited this gated community last week just south from Coconut Grove, Coral Gables and off the Old Cutler Highway. Miami Vice shot around this area a number of times in Season 4 and 5. Enjoy the snaps I took to mirror and more what we see in this fine episode which aired in the Spring of 1988.

Izzy is Cuban, so no...they didn't leave them out. It's also implied that Castillo is of Cuban origin as well ("Charles Bronson by way of Havana") in the first episode he appears. So once again they weren't excluded.

I was disappointed in my recent trip to Miami Beach coming into town from California - it has become such a party town . No respect for the show that started the town again in the 1980s. What suprised me was the fighting on Ocean Drive — groups of girls fighting and cops everywhere, really rough. I love this city it’s in my heart but there should be more class like North Beach, Fort Lauderdale, Key Biscayne and Lauderdale by the Sea.

Add to this the fact Vice was really conceived by Mann as primarily a visual vehicle and it makes the change even more significant. Vice is rather unique when compared to other shows in that way. You can see the changes during season one as the impact of Yerkovich and his more traditional character-driven plotting and focus recedes and Mann's more visual emphasis takes over. Then you take Mann away and there's really nothing left to fall back on.

Sorry that happened to your family! But unfortunately this and even worse was a frequent occurrence back in the late 80s. I personally remember from my time in Miami several fatal incidents with European tourists who received their rental cars at the airport and drove to Miami Beach, but took the wrong exit and ended in Overtown or other dangerous areas. There they mostly stopped, rolled down the windows and asked for directions. That was often enough to trigger a robbery, car theft or even worse. I remember that Miami reacted by removing rental tags on license plates, adding big „To Miami Beach“ signs and patrol cars on all crucial routes from the airport. That was big news on TV at that time. Luckily I never had any trouble. Maybe because I blended in with the neighborhood, spoke American accent and avoided bad areas. But being too fearful and deeming all others as potential risks can also create unjustified prejudice. I remember walking with a friend 2 miles to the Metrorail station in South Miami as no cabs there and we had not enough cab money to spend anyway. On our route a bunch of afroamerican guys played basketball in a front yard of a modest house and we started getting nervous walking by when they recognized us and started talking to us. But they only cordially invited us to join the game (we declined politely with a joke as they were all >6,5“ tall and we looked like hobbits against them). Later I was ashamed of my immediate preconditioned thought they would attack us, simply based on the initial vibe of the situation. But it was hard to tell at that time who had good intentions. In recent years most areas of Miami got much safer and overall crime rates plummeted. I spent lots of time there with my family in the last 20 years and we never had any nasty situations.

The changes weren't just cosmetic, all of the writers left along with the executive producer and line producer. Season 3 was a brand new platform. Imagine David Chase, Terrence Winter and all of the writers leaving after season 2 of The Sopranos, the vision for the series would go down a different path.

Our city , 1982 — two years before Miami Vice started filming in March 1984. ( source - Miami Herald ).

I take my hat off to you--this bottle does look almost identical to the one shown on the show. I didn't find any with the UPC code or a lot of small print text in google Images. With improved lighting and resolution I think we could confirm it 100%.

I have very broad shoulders myself. It proves problematic on airliners. I’m not only very tall, but the shoulder width requires me to literally lean in if I’m on the aisle for the drink cart to go by. As far as the jacket tailoring, I would then suggest that the armhole is higher than the one DJ wore or the shoulder of the body is shorter causing the sleeve to sit higher. My mother was quite the amateur tailor, having patterned and constructed suits for my father. I learned quite a bit by default. I’m no expert by any means though. She made me numerous custom fitted shirts when I was a young man. In my teens and 20’s she would ask what new shirts I would like for my birthday. She made me everything from alohas, to guayaberas to dress shirts and more. One year I remember her making me a banded collar dress shirt that was not terribly common, but had a bit of popularity in the 80’s. This was way before the internet where everything is available. I got more than one compliments wearing that one.

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This wasn’t product placement at all for all the reasons you mention, plus another. Product placement was very uncommon at the time when the three networks dominated and mass audience appeal was king. Showing a particular product reduced advertising revenue opportunities. Why would Coke pay for an ad slot on a show that featured Pepsi placement. I think this wasn’t relevant in this particular instance because advertising of liquor on TV was not legal, so there could be no competitors. They simply used an existing bottle rather than going to the trouble of creating a false label. It was also not particularly featured in the scene as you explained. Beer, on the other hand, was a different story and labels were created. I recall seeing on the Carol Burnett Show many years ago, skits where the characters held cans with the label reading Beer! This added to the humor. Another example is Magnum pi, from the same era. It frequently referenced a fictitious beer called Old Düsseldorf and another called Coops that looked strikingly like a Coors labels in its design.

In the 80s they couldn’t show as much with sex scenes on TV. But, it was definitely implied that Crockett and Gina had a sexual relationship. I don’t think their races had anything to do with that (whether the characters or the actors in real life). Perhaps if they had tried to get Crockett and Trudy together it would have had a different impact…but, MV crossed a lot of barriers & pushed the proverbial envelope with lots of things at the time. One was they included a lot of races, ethnic backgrounds, and cultures in different episodes. And no, it wasn’t specifically Crockett…but the show did have or portray some interracial relationships. Castillo had May Ying (who was Asian), Noogie had a white wife, and Tubbs’ former partner Clarence Batisse (from the episode “Better Living Through Chemistry”) had a white girlfriend and/or wife, just to name a few off the top of my head. I think that for the time, MV was awesome with again…trying to include many different ethnic backgrounds, cultures, races, etc…

I'm 99% sure this is a bottle of Wild Turkey. Look at the font and location of the description on the label

Thank you for posting - great.

The scene with little girl in the red coat had me in tears. "The Pianist" is another emotional ride.

A film that is guaranteed to make my wife and I shed tears. Fantastic movie.

i took the opportunity i took an amazon prime membership for 3 months for an order to watch latest Mann Ferrari on prime video. the first 1h30 are pure biography. so a bit boring, as Enzo Ferrari didn't fight any predator during his life.. still interersting though. you see how cold blooded the man was, when leading a big industry. the last 30 minutes about the Mille miglias race is awesome though. lot of nice cars, and suspense. Adam Driver impressed me a bit in rogue one, and he confirms he's an amazing actor in Ferrari the mille miglias is a defunct/semi defunct mythical european car race i plan to go watch civil war, and the fall guy in the upcoming days

Thanks for the kind words Tom. but no one was hurt, and we weren't traumatized by it. my dad had a good situation back then, and the prejudice wasn't unbearable. on a side note i still remember the model of the rental car. it was a super, mega awesome Chevy Beretta. a really nice comfy american car @Paul Veresthe documentary about Anthon Samuel was really powerful. Thanks for sharing

i will answer the topic i'd like to answer one by one, as if not i''ll forget what i wanted to say . yeah i can confirm that Miami was pretty criminalilty infested in the 80s. as during my short (one or two weeks) holiday there with my parents we were victim of a car door robbery (not sure of the english word). as my dad was paying the gas for the rental car at the gas station he had the inadvertance of letting his bag into the car. another car came fast and stole the bag. which contained our passports, a good amount of cash my dad had for the trip, and a couple of (colombian) esmeralds. the thief(s) probably tracked us down from the hotel, with the rental car. I remember the cop who took my dad declaration was not on duty at the time of incident, but still in a cop car. and my dad called him as he was inside the traffic, and he kindly took our declaration. another proof if needed that cops don't count their hours. we were lucky he was a latino, and my dad could talk to him in spanish. my dad being fluent in spanish. luckily i found back the ticket. it's incredible, but it's one of the rare things i still have of my south american life 89 is the incident year

True…Dick Wolf was sadly handed the production reins from Michael Mann (who only stayed involved by name only), and Wolf brought in his people & writers instead.

Actually Miami Beach declared this year as a total success in tampering the rowdy crowds during the spring break and thus turning the South Beach reputation around, following their draconian measures. So ostensibly this year should be better than the past 5-10 years!

So Castillo isn't a mysterious ninja, Crockett doesn't have an ex-wife and son out there, and nothing that happened during the first two seasons is linked to what we see in the following three? They changed the clothes, the colors and the car. They didn't reboot the show. She speaks fluent Spanish, multiple times, to the minor picky "Echevarría" point, and afaik she's always been listed as "Navarro" (which would, actually, be "mentioning her as Spanish". Or at least Hispanic). When was she specifically mentioned as Italian, other than the name? For all of the "oh they just randomly decided to make her Hispanic in Season 3" -- without Gina being Cuban the show has no representation at all of one of Miami's largest and most significant demographics. Which makes no sense. They actually need her to be Latina far more than they need her to be Italian. It's not really a whim. Also, again, they're not mutually exclusive. Hispanic by birth; Italian by upbringing; she can be both.

Well actually, it is unconstructed, just like I asked ! Nothing in there but light linen Maybe I just have square shoulders ? In which case, I take the compliment

This is very much the case. Vice had an unusual amount of fluidity in show runners/producers/whatever, even for the time. And don't forget the main focus of Vice was usually visual. Characters were at times an afterthought. Castillo is an exception, but that has more to do with EJO and his conditions for working on the show.

Interestingly, this recent article from Architectural Digest just came into my newsfeed: https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/most-expensive-zip-codes-in-the-united-states Miami Beach is number two, California has the most, then New York, and there are a couple of surprises.

"Shivers" (1975) Cronenberg shows his skills as an inventive auteur and the result is a superior horror film. It sort of reminds me of George Romero’s "Night of the Living Dead"

"Schindler’s List" One of Spielberg’s more serious and better films. Grade A rating.

I didn’t mean to criticize his tailor as it is a beautiful jacket. I was just pointing out that the jacket appears to be more heavily constructed than those worn by DJ on the show. I’m sure his tailor could create an unconstructed jacket without the lining and padding if asked. The unconstructed style was quite distinct to the series at the time. This, along with the t-shirts underneath, the lack of socks, and DJ’s stubble were all quite new and trendy at the time.

If I might respond to your final comment about the fit of the shoulders. I believe the difference is that the shoulders on your jacket are more heavily constructed, which is the norm actually, but not present here with DJ’s jacket. Notice how it rounds over his shoulders whereas yours comes to more of a point. This is because of the padded lining added in the shoulder by your tailor. DJ’s likely had little to none, so it drapes more like a windbreaker jacket than a constructed one. If it were possible to put both coats on hangers next to each other, the difference would be even more obvious.

Defining a “neighborhood” is very subjective, particularly in areas with islands. There’s a small island next to Naples Island in Long Beach called Treasure Island. It has like 12 houses, all above $ 5 million, with several well above $10 million. It’s not a neighborhood, it’s an enclave. The whole area of Naples is a neighborhood, which still has no homes less than $3 million. It has an elementary school, stores and restaurants, etc… I think a better metric is zip code, because it’s drawn impartially for mail delivery and better at reflecting a general area for living… i.e. a neighborhood. I’d be interested in seeing the most expensive zip codes in the nation. I would bet FL, NY, and CA are definitely on the list, but there might be some surprises on the list.

Thanks Tom, I knew all that info was in your RAM available for instantaneous retrieval Yes, many places that would never be advertised 30 years ago are now something like "quaint cozy neighborhoods with authentic vibes and rich cultural tapestry". All positive change, and I wonder what Miami will look like 30 years from now! Bar the sea level rise lol.

They filmed some ghetto driving scenes in "The good collar" at the Liberty Square Housing project. Other than that they never used that area and only rarely Liberty City (the cemetery in El Viejo) or even Allapattah (most other ghetto scenes in The good collar were filmed around NW36 Street). All other "ghetto" scenes in the series were staged somewhere else, mostly downtown or Miami Beach (e.g. Love at first sight when they arrest Chou Chou). A second episode with lots of ghetto scenes is "Childs´play" with lots of filming in downtown near 1000 block of N Miami Ave. But I can confirm first hand that Miami was a much more dangerous place 30 years ago than it is now. There are still bad hoods, but very confined. In the 80s/early 90s you could not even get off the Airport expressway while crossing downtown and even police cars did not dare to let the windows down while driving through Overtown. Not saying that it is all safe now, but Miami is not THE drug inflow center of the US anymore and it shows. Overtown is quite safe now and Wynwood north of Overtown which was a regular combat zone in the 80s is an art district now with lots of galleries and fancy go out places.

Just watched this recent documentary about the non-touristy side of Miami - gun violence in the hoods. A depressing view, but certainly a real Miami life beyond the glitter of South Beach, Brickell and other typically covered neighborhoods. From Allapattah to Opa-locka, the film focuses on Northwest Dade as it is made by a local young man who successfully "got out", though there are plenty of similarly blighted neighborhoods in the Southwest Dade. I wonder how often Miami Vice ventured out to filming the show into these areas and not "just" Little Havana. @Tom you might have a quick answer from the top of your head. The film covers a few sadly common stories of people gunned down in gang related shootings, including children, as well as positives like Miami's Circle of Brotherhood which aims to engage the black youth away from destructive street influence and into constructive development. I'm certainly not an expert on the subject, but what I noticed about South Florida hoods (define as you will) is that the urban fabric is usually one-story homes. We don't have high-rise projects like New York or Chicago, or streets of row houses like Baltimore or Philly. I don't know if it changes the dynamics through lower concentration of people, but I believe the overall view is that Miami is "not as bad" as the places up north (can't speak for the West Coast, maybe @pahonu has an insight). As a side note, gentrification is unstoppable, and I mean the good kind like building new affordable (whatever that currently means in Miami) and workforce housing. I was just looking at what I assume is, pardon the term, the hoodest hood - these simple barracks-looking homes in Liberty City. By the way note the lack of vegetation and burnt out lawns. Studies have shown that presence of trees and other greenery has a positive effect on mental health, not to mention surface temperatures in Miami. Lack thereof, consequently, has an opposite effect. So there used to be 9 blocks of these there just few years ago, easily identifiable in the center of this historic aerial: Now there is only 4 left and I assume they will be all gone soon: as the Related Group is building the following - see the project description below. Jorge Pérez is certainly a staple in Miami and has been building not only luxury skyscrapers but also affordable housing for decades. The new streets look much better: I can only assume that the residents of the razed homes will now reside in these new homes and are not just pushed out elsewhere. The website says the "apartments range in area median income (AMI) of 50%, 60%, 80% and 120%". Here are the actual prices, though I'm not sure how to interpret the AMI number directly below the price: E.g. are you only eligible for that $1,091 one bed one bath if you are at or below 60% of the AMI? I encountered other workforce housing by Related, in Brickell (!), where the rent was just capped at $900 or 30% of your income, whatever is lower, which sounds like a better deal. If I remember correctly, don't quote me on that.

Japanese Gardens on Watson Island, 1974

Mid 1980s Miami Grand Prix in Downtown (also seen in Florence Italy episode)

Braman dealership at 20th and Biscayne in 1984. Braman was visible in some Ferrari scenes filmed in several episodes on Biscayne in the background.