Party_car1 Posted August 18, 2023 Report Share Posted August 18, 2023 So, in watching Tale Of The Goat many times, I always wondered about the validity of the story Crockett, Tubbs and Castillo were told by the doctor concerning how Legba appeared dead but left his coffin. I thought they made up the Tetredotoxin story as a way to explain it. Creative bit of writing but suspect from a reality standpoint or so I thought. Then I ran across something online that actually validated it. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCBman Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 TUBBS Man, nobody's gonna risk brain damage for a handful of cashola and a bad girlfriend. CROCKETT Come on, Rico, we've seen people killed for a nickel bag every day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvice8489 Posted August 19, 2023 Report Share Posted August 19, 2023 Man, nobody's gonna risk brain damage for a handful of cashola and a bad girlfriend. Sounds like a couple of my buddy's college experiences ....LOL !!! ) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaul1 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 vaudou like any other religion, has a part of real, and a part of allegory. it's up to everyone to distinguish the part of each. i read a good book about haïtian vaudou once. and only zombies they refered to, were 'charmed' people, that were put into a great depression state. at such point that they would loose any hope, and thus become malleable. they can be put into such frustration states by charms sent by black vaudou sorcerers (aka bokors). one of these charms is the 'expedition of the deads'. a highly feared charm among vaudou practitioners. in short it consists of sending the spirits of the deads after a person, and puts him/her into a great frustration state, that can lead to the death of the victim. never heard tetrodotoxin stuff though.. the author spent months with a haïtian houngan (white vaudou priest), and her hounsis (adepts/family) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, jpaul1 said: vaudou like any other religion, has a part of real, and a part of allegory. it's up to everyone to distinguish the part of each. i read a good book about haïtian vaudou once. and only zombies they refered to, were 'charmed' people, that were put into a great depression state. at such point that they would loose any hope, and thus become malleable. they can be put into such frustration states by charms sent by black vaudou sorcerers (aka bokors). one of these charms is the 'expedition of the deads'. a highly feared charm among vaudou practitioners. in short it consists of sending the spirits of the deads after a person, and puts him/her into a great frustration state, that can lead to the death of the victim. never heard tetrodotoxin stuff though.. the author spent months with a haïtian houngan (white vaudou priest), and her hounsis (adepts/family) I would recommend a book I read years ago by Zora Neale Hurston, called Tell My Horse. She was an author and anthropologist during the Harlem Renaissance and the decades following. She mostly focused on the folk traditions and beliefs of the African American South where she was born, including hoodoo. However, in the 30’s she was awarded a Guggenheim Fellowship to conduct ethnographic research in Haiti and Jamaica. The book documents her fieldwork studying vodoun in Haiti and the cultural and spiritual rituals in Jamaica. I recently downloaded her article from The Journal of American Folklore called Hoodoo in America, but haven’t read it yet. Edited August 20, 2023 by pahonu 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted August 20, 2023 Report Share Posted August 20, 2023 Legba is based on Clairvius Narcisse, a Haitian man who claimed to have been turned into a zombie by a Haitian vodou. The hypothesis for Narcisse's account was that he had been administered a combination of psychoactive substances (often the paralyzing pufferfish venom tetrodotoxin and the strong deliriant Datura), which rendered him helpless and seemingly dead. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted August 26, 2023 Report Share Posted August 26, 2023 On 8/20/2023 at 7:50 PM, RedDragon86 said: Legba is based on Clairvius Narcisse, a Haitian man who claimed to have been turned into a zombie by a Haitian vodou. The hypothesis for Narcisse's account was that he had been administered a combination of psychoactive substances (often the paralyzing pufferfish venom tetrodotoxin and the strong deliriant Datura), which rendered him helpless and seemingly dead. Great piece 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Party_car1 Posted November 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2023 Wow. Lots of great commentary on this. Thanks to all who have weighed in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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