Shill Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 It's slowly dawning on me that Sonny was ultimately responsible for the death of Zito. It's Sonny that pushed a reluctant Zito into not only managing Sykes, but also pushed him into asking for some Guzmann book action. Also, no protection was offered to Zito the night after the fight. Any thoughts on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted February 27, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yep. You're correct on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Crockett is a murderer!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina_Calabrese Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Crockett is a murderer!!!I thought we already knew that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agent 47 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Crockett is a murderer!!!They are undercover cops, they know the risks, in that line of work, you're life is sacrificed 24-7, it isn't some fun joyride, Zito knew the risks, they are dealing with people who kill thousands of people ever day! (Look at the current war in Mexico, that's who they're dealing with, not Noughy Lamont every time!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Pierson Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I, too, thought this was old news. However, the concept of Larry (apparently) being unarmed and unprepared to deal with his murderers has always haunted me. I realize that this was a way to "finalize his performance" on the series, but it always bothers me to see an aspect of innocence so deeply violated. Maybe it effects me because I liked Zito and true depth of his character. It is just hard for me to believe that Larry would have let his guard down when there had already been one murder. I REALLY hated to see Larry go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted February 27, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yep. I always thought it odd that he was not "packing" when the "boys" arrived.But then again, like so many questions about MV eps. It was necessary to make the ep. like it was.I always thought it odd that Stan came into the gym, called out for Larry a few times and then pulled his gun and started searching. What was amiss to cause Stan to pull out his gun? Larry not answering immediately? Suppose Larry was in the john at the time? Suppose there were other members in the gym while Stan did his search with his gun drawn? I don't know, maybe it was paranoia, but that scene was a little silly to me. He could have been in a back room of the gym or something. For Stan to go around like he did was a little silly to me.But what do I know? :confused: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chum981 Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 Yep. I always thought it odd that he was not "packing" when the "boys" arrived.But then again' date=' like so many questions about MV eps. It was necessary to make the ep. like it was.I always thought it odd that Stan came into the gym, called out for Larry a few times and then pulled his gun and started searching. What was amiss to cause Stan to pull out his gun? Larry not answering immediately? Suppose Larry was in the john at the time? Suppose there were other members in the gym while Stan did his search with his gun drawn? I don't know, maybe it was paranoia, but that scene was a little silly to me. He could have been in a back room of the gym or something. For Stan to go around like he did was a little silly to me.But what do I know? :confused:[/quote']It was emotional though. Not so real-life as such, but a scene that is well remembered. You knew when Stan was calling out and no answer was given, that something terrible had happened - especially with the music in the background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shill Posted February 27, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I think the punch bag was moving slightly as Stan pulled up to suggest something amiss/ominous too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina_Calabrese Posted February 27, 2009 Report Share Posted February 27, 2009 I watched that ep with my dad and when it got to that scene my dad said "Something happens to Zito, right?" And of course I didn't answer. I still come very close to crying when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger390X Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Come on Gina admit it.....I ball my eyes out when I see the look on Stans face when he holds Zito in his arms.Come on that scene could melt the polar caps! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gina_Calabrese Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Alright... Yeah, I cried. A bit. In the bathroom.But then, I cried at the end of the Good Collar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 5, 2009 Report Share Posted March 5, 2009 Come on Gina admit it.....I ball my eyes out when I see the look on Stans face when he holds Zito in his arms.Come on that scene could melt the polar caps!Yeah' date=' that´s true !!!These scenes in the bathroom are so sad :cry::cry:The next scenes during the funeral are as sad as these scenes - especially because [i']Blind Faith is playing :cry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chum981 Posted March 6, 2009 Report Share Posted March 6, 2009 Yeah, I got a lump in my throat too! That was during Zito's death and funeral and Switek's breakdown in "Hard Knocks". It seems to be all centered around Switek!?! Maybe I think Switek's character is the genuine, next-door-neighbour-kinda-guy. Even in "Freefall", he gets suspended by Castillo - I didn't feel sad as such, but I felt sorry for Switek again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I think this episode is the beginning of Stan´s mental breakdown !:eek:In Down For The Count, Part 2 Stan is constantly sad and totally down and during season 4 and 5 he doesn´t become the old joker.:cry:Stan explains his situation during the sad funeral - Larry was more than a partner - he was like a brother.This sentence explains all vagueness, doesn´t it ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsEvanFreed Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Zito's death was sad and poignant, dude looked like he was simply asleep.And yes, the part when Stan holds him always gets to me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23 ways Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Notice how Stan bitterly addressed Crockett in Part II.In segment 2 (After Zito's funeral) when he walked past Crockett in OCB's conference room he said something like "Are you happy now". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsEvanFreed Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Switek was never quite the same after Zito was killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spyder Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Switek was never quite the same after Zito was killed. Especially with his descent into gambling addiction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I'm in the middle of watching season 3 now and I had to skip the episode when I realized which one it was. It's too sad, especially when you see Switek's expression at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahaguy43 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 I never got why didn't Larry have a gun on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crockettt Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Stan and Larry were great funny detective team. I love them!. That's why i hate Down For The Count episodes. John Diehl should have stayed on Vice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCrazy Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I DIDN'T KNOW HE DIED I HAVEN'T FINISHED WATCHING THEM ALL YET!NNNNNNNNOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 My guess Larry's death was a first ridiculous thing in a Vice.. Especially when Switek find Larry on bathroom,he's face just a little bit artificial. Switek could make a realist expression more than he made. And the second ridiculous is Larry has unarmed. What a damn and sucks thing to like a tv show Miami Vice. We see all of previous season the squad always armed. Even I say, I love Crockett's armed style. He don't wear on that t-shirts into jackets,trousers,espadrilles underdress for only make cover himself,he wear that items for hide his arm too. I like Rico's style too. His hiding style is brillant! Even I can say he legend to hide his shotgun. He's so genius for this.Hiding gunshot into the jackets.Again I can say Crockett's hiding style is genius too! They' always wear underarm gun cases and they often carry 'em this way. Sometimes We see Tubbs didn't carry gunshot and he just carry two pistol (one on his ankle two on his holster or in his jacket's pocket "That can see on Viking Bikers From Hell episode) And you know Crockett always wear a holster his left underarm and also wear a bullet case his right underarm(also attach a handcuff case on his bullet case from Season 3)But All Nevertheless Zito didn't take and carry a simple pistol gun! That's beginning down of Vice.. As we know Switek and Zito always armed. Also my guess for this,they should have wear any item for cover his arm too. They only wore twice or once underarm holster like Crockett's wearing on their underarm. First Calderone Retron Part I second I didn't remember,I'll check it as fast as I can. That's why they made a dumbed final for Zito.I think they made it like that for John Diehl's left. And you see How Zito's character in a wink blow off and gone and never have talked about on him again.If you look carefully to this,you'll see that is the beginning down of Vice. Not to mention I'm talking about the ridiculous episodes of Season 4-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GONZO!!! Posted September 13, 2014 Report Share Posted September 13, 2014 One of my favorite scenes...shows the brotherly love...I get teary eyed when I watch it...in death scenes and brotherly love, it second to Brian ' s Song Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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