Mvice8489 Posted November 17, 2017 Report Share Posted November 17, 2017 BigSarg's car looks fantastic!! I've been begging him to sell it to me .....but no luck He's worked hard on it for nearly two years to get it in the condition that it is today. I hope he enjoys it for years to come. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Stinger, it was a blast. Going to be going to a celebrity car show in January https://www.eventbrite.com/e/celebrity-auto-festival-2018-tickets-19408703956 I think that’s going to be crazy fun. It’s a 5 hr drive. I’ll get to play with the tablet that is Bluetooth to my EFI system. I’m at 19 MPG on the highway now. It’s running at 11.8 for cruising. The setting is 11.5 - 13. The higher the number, the better fuel mileage. I’m thinking I’ll be at 22 mpg when she’s tuned in 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 To achieve the stance: cut 16 1/4 “ off front spring I have the 10” bolt on the rear springs which allow me to adjust the height up or down to get the look I want, the bolt is cut at 8 1/2” a bullet 1” spacer is on the rear passenger side tire. Some corvettes are set up with the passenger side rear tire setting in 1” different than the drivers side tire. I’ve heard all kinds of reasons, but I have not found any documentation for the set up. The brake yellow calipers were painted silver to blend them in with the rim. I have 225/60R 15 tires on all four corners. I just can’t see the need to run bigger tires on the rear. It’s not a muscle car 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) The grill color is a dark gun metal gray. The grill doesn’t disappear like it did when it was painted the same color as the body. It just doesn’t stand out and take away from the car’s lines. The grills that are aluminum color seem to pop too much for me on a black car. the vice car’s grill was just there. This is what I was trying to achieve Edited November 18, 2017 by Bigsarg Pics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 Not sure what you're getting at as the McB show car grills were the same as mine...aluminum and silver in color. Of course over time they will oxidize some and lose their luster, but I've brought mine back using polish. Your pic above doesn't show that clearly but I've seen other closeups where they are shinier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I’ve never seen pics of your car. On the vice car it may be that the grill is tarnish and that’s why it’s not so shinny. I tried to copy that look onto my car. When my car was red, the aluminum grill looked great, but then it was red too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Here are a few screen shots that show the silver color, though appearing somewhat dull, likely from the dust kicked up in the alleys and from oxidation. Edited November 18, 2017 by Sonny-Burnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 SB, show some pics of ur car. I’ve never seen it. The MV car grill may have been tarnished and that’s why it didn’t pop. That’s the look I wanted. After studying many pics of the Vice car, my painter chose the color that would simulate what you see on TV. All I know, is it’s not the shinny aluminum that takes away from the lines of the car, IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Here are a few shots (first 3) of my car that I think I had posted in here in the Ferrari thread, while the last small shot is the Camera Car as seen in recent years The first shot makes the grill look almost gray due to shading. Edited November 18, 2017 by Sonny-Burnett 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 SB, Thxs for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 18, 2017 Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Bigsarg said: SB, Thxs for sharing. Welcome...I wanted you to see the comparison of the Camera Car grill (last small pic) taken by JN some years back against the McB grill on my car (3rd pic) ...to me they are very close in color after I polished mine. And aluminum dulls very quickly as I learned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2017 I think the color my grill was painted is the color of the tarnished grill. At least now I don’t have to Waite for it to tarnish to look like the vice car on TV. LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicegirl85 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 (edited) SB, your car is beautiful! Thanks for sharing the pics Edited November 19, 2017 by vicegirl85 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mvice8489 Posted November 19, 2017 Report Share Posted November 19, 2017 SB, where do you live? Aren't you in the Chicago area? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bigsarg Posted November 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2017 On 18/11/2017 at 4:42 PM, Sonny-Burnett said: Here are a few shots (first 3) of my car that I think I had posted in here in the Ferrari thread, while the last small shot is the Camera Car as seen in recent years The first shot makes the grill look almost gray due to shading. SB, what tires are you running. Your rear tire is bigger than the front it seems. I like the stance. Are you going to lower the front? If so, how are you thinking of doing it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 (edited) On 11/20/2017 at 9:57 PM, Bigsarg said: SB, what tires are you running. Your rear tire is bigger than the front it seems. I like the stance. Are you going to lower the front? If so, how are you thinking of doing it? Thanks. I have the standard Vette config of 215/60/15 tires on my front axle and 255/60/15 on the rear. Not really focused on lowering the nose, but rather to get one tire on all four wheels. But I have not located a tire dealer as yet that will let me order and try different tire sizes so that I can try them on. (The big tire chains won't work on my wheels because they cannot be torque set.) I initially thought about going to the same size tires as @CameraDaytona, who uses 235/60 VR15 and those may be the original Pirellis. However, the tire guy I spoke to thinks it’s likely my Vette wheels were setup for 215s in front and 255s in the rear, as both fit nearly flush with the fender when viewed from above. He also thinks that if the rears are replaced with 235s, that they may recess about ½ inch inside the wheel well (more with the 225s). The fronts are really the issue as the 215s now are about flush with the fender (viewed from above) and so when they are replaced with 235s, they may extend out about ½ inch when viewed from above, so I really don't want that look, and perhaps may restrict my turning radius. I also measured the fender flares and noticed that the rears are wider than the front to accommodate the wider rear tires. So I may try the 225s in the spring all around to see how that works. I think the 215s were the size @jurassicnarc eventually went with on his replicar, and I want to test that size as well on the rear axle. Edited November 22, 2017 by Sonny-Burnett Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 I love this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 That’s always the hardest part. Getting the tire tested before you buy. My shop has a tool that you can mount the tire on and set backspace and see if it will fit. You don’t mount the tire on the a rim, so you can return the tire. If you can find a shop that has this tool, the big tire shops will let you buy two different sizes, understanding that you will return one and buy 3 more of the correct size, once you have figured out what will work. I’m running 225/60 15 all 4 corners. I did the two inch drop on the front and have the 10” bolt in the rear to adjust the height there. My tires are pretty much flush from a top view looking down. If you put a level on my middle body line. The car sets level. You front size is almost the same as my 225s. But dam you got some meat on the back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D. Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Best of Luck with your beautiful automobile, Sonny-Burnett! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Thxs, Your too Bra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 (edited) On 11/22/2017 at 12:02 AM, Bigsarg said: I’m running 225/60 15 all 4 corners. I did the two inch drop on the front and have the 10” bolt in the rear to adjust the height there. My tires are pretty much flush from a top view looking down. If you put a level on my middle body line. The car sets level. You front size is almost the same as my 225s. But dam you got some meat on the back. Thanks for the charts. Can you clarify pls what you mean about the '2 inch drop in the front', as well as your comment about the '10" bolt in the rear'...are you saying you have a means to adjust the height of your axle or something else? I don't believe there is a way to adjust the mounting spline of my Zenith rims, but I would be interested in a solution to accommodate larger tires in the front and reducing the inset (viewed from above) when reducing the rear tire size, as well as potentially changing the spacing of the tires in the wheel well ( viewed from the side). The tire guy I spoke with wasn't much help and may require a visit to a Vette mechanic. I may also go to 225s vs the 235s that are on the camera car because I've seen closeups in the Brothers Keeper night driving scene (see photo) and the front tires appear to protrude from the wheel well flares as viewed from above. I am looking for a more flush look as I have now, but that would require some sort of adjustment when changing my current tires. I don't think that there will be much of a body leveling difference because lowering the rears to 225s would only drop the rear around .7 " (1/2 the tire diameter difference) but raising the fronts would be minimal so overall I don't expect much of a change in stance, but I would have to look at that if so. Edited November 23, 2017 by Sonny-Burnett 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny-Burnett Posted November 23, 2017 Report Share Posted November 23, 2017 On 11/22/2017 at 12:02 AM, Bigsarg said: . My shop has a tool that you can mount the tire on and set backspace and see if it will fit. You don’t mount the tire on the a rim, so you can return the tire. If you can find a shop that has this tool, the big tire shops will let you buy two different sizes, understanding that you will return one and buy 3 more of the correct size, once you have figured out what will work. Not familiar with this tool. The issue I have is the nature of my Zenith wheels (same as installed on the show cars), which are mounted with a donut that has holes for an adaptor mount to tighten. ( see diagram) But the wheels do not have a torque setting as they are simply tightened using a compression tool until it ratchets, and then slow tightened to expose an alignment hole in the donut for a retaining bolt that locks the donut in place. The big tire chains won't work on such wheels without a specified torque setting for legal reasons, as I have asked a few to do so. So I will have to work with a smaller tire place to try different tire sizes, or shuttle the sample tires from the big shops over to a mechanic willing to tie up his rack for a couple hours in swapping out tires and rims. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pritt Posted November 24, 2017 Report Share Posted November 24, 2017 I drive on 205/70/15 front and 235/60/15 rear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsarg Posted November 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2017 On 23/11/2017 at 12:02 PM, Sonny-Burnett said: Thanks for the charts. Can you clarify pls what you mean about the '2 inch drop in the front', as well as your comment about the '10" bolt in the rear'...are you saying you have a means to adjust the height of your axle or something else? I don't believe there is a way to adjust the mounting spline of my Zenith rims, but I would be interested in a solution to accommodate larger tires in the front and reducing the inset (viewed from above) when reducing the rear tire size, as well as potentially changing the spacing of the tires in the wheel well ( viewed from the side). The tire guy I spoke with wasn't much help and may require a visit to a Vette mechanic. I may also go to 225s vs the 235s that are on the camera car because I've seen closeups in the Brothers Keeper night driving scene (see photo) and the front tires appear to protrude from the wheel well flares as viewed from above. I am looking for a more flush look as I have now, but that would require some sort of adjustment when changing my current tires. I don't think that there will be much of a body leveling difference because lowering the rears to 225s would only drop the rear around .7 " (1/2 the tire diameter difference) but raising the fronts would be minimal so overall I don't expect much of a change in stance, but I would have to look at that if so. SB, you can get new coils that will drop the front 1”. I opted to drop 2” and they don’t make a coil for that. My shop cut 16 1/4 in off (1 complete coil) off my existing spring. This dropped it 2 inches in the front. In the rear you can get a new bolt 8,10,12 inch to adjust your rear ride height. I watched all this being done and it is something you can do yourself in a weekend. Very few tools needed. The spreader tool can be borrowed from autozone. This article is a good reference: https://itstillruns.com/lower-c3-corvette-7598931.html I could put three fingers easily between the top of the tire and the fender flare. So I went for a 2 inch drop with the 225/60 15 in the front 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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