agent 47 Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 https://www.france24.com/en/20190829-michael-mann-eyes-heat-2-film-as-book-nears-completion-1 Well this sounds interesting. Whether it's only a book or it does turn into a movie or series sounds like it could have some promise. Also mentions a number of other projects he is working on including a Vietnam series I posted about a long while ago and a screenplay about the Golden Triangle during the 1980's. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 (edited) On 9/1/2019 at 11:27 AM, agent 47 said: https://www.france24.com/en/20190829-michael-mann-eyes-heat-2-film-as-book-nears-completion-1 Well this sounds interesting. Whether it's only a book or it does turn into a movie or series sounds like it could have some promise. Also mentions a number of other projects he is working on including a Vietnam series I posted about a long while ago and a screenplay about the Golden Triangle during the 1980's. Well, I certainly hope this will happen. The other projects sound good, too. Thanks for posting! Edited September 8, 2019 by mjcmmv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted September 1, 2019 Report Share Posted September 1, 2019 Sorry, I'm very wary of Mann with any sort of series project given his own admitted short attention span for those kind of things. Anything dealing with Hue is going to run head-on into the legacy of Full Metal Jacket, so that could be interesting. And Quanah Parker? So long as he avoids the Dances With Wolves theory of these things it's got great potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrsEvanFreed Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 In my head, Collateral is the unofficial sequel to Heat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ferrariman Posted September 8, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, MrsEvanFreed said: In my head, Collateral is the unofficial sequel to Heat. I agree If this does become a movie, please don't let Pacino and De Niro reprise their roles unless he intends to digitally de-age them for the entire movie. Both actors are looking a bit rough these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted September 8, 2019 Administrators Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 Heat is in my opinion one of the top movies ever made. Things like that need to stand alone as sequels rarely ever meet or top the original. With the time lapse between the two movies I don't see how DeNiro and Pachino can reprise their roles. Not to mention DeNiro was killed at the end of the first one. Not having those two and calling it Heat 2 or whatever would be silly. But maybe they will have a wheel chair race? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, timm525 said: Heat is in my opinion one of the top movies ever made. Things like that need to stand alone as sequels rarely ever meet or top the original. With the time lapse between the two movies I don't see how DeNiro and Pachino can reprise their roles. Not to mention DeNiro was killed at the end of the first one. Not having those two and calling it Heat 2 or whatever would be silly. But maybe they will have a wheel chair race? Certainly the greatest crime film ever made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren10 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 Vincent Hanna was always meant to have his own series. Maybe this is Mann being a completionist at this stage in his career. He is 76 now. How many years and films does he have left as an active director? Especially at his rate of output. Mann has always been very time-conscious, as evidenced by all the "time is luck" talk in his films and commentaries. He may just do the projects he feels like irregardless of what fans or critics think. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaul1 Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 i didn't like Heat, for several reasons. first, i think, it gives too much importance to bank robbers, which are nothing more.. than scums. seocnd, if it had been me, i'd have put Pacino into the bad guy, and de Niro into the cop. my 2c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kladdagh Posted September 8, 2019 Report Share Posted September 8, 2019 HEAT is on of my favorite movie ... I see a tv series instead of a movie sequel/prequel ... Time will tell us ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren10 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 On 9/8/2019 at 12:46 PM, jpaul1 said: i didn't like Heat, for several reasons. first, i think, it gives too much importance to bank robbers, which are nothing more.. than scums. seocnd, if it had been me, i'd have put Pacino into the bad guy, and de Niro into the cop. my 2c Even scumbags have a POV with a history, backstory, and an agenda, which is what Mann was getting at. The alternative is to have a 2 dimensional, conventional cops and robbers film which I've seen enough of. The fact that Heat wasn't that is one of the reasons it was successful, not just Deniro/Pacino. And there are plenty of Vice eps with semi-sympathetic antagonists, including our resident informants Izzy and Noogie, who could certainly be called scum with no value if you're not a cop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jpaul1 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, Bren10 said: Even scumbags have a POV with a history, backstory, and an agenda, which is what Mann was getting at. The alternative is to have a 2 dimensional, conventional cops and robbers film which I've seen enough of. The fact that Heat wasn't that is one of the reasons it was successful, not just Deniro/Pacino. And there are plenty of Vice eps with semi-sympathetic antagonists, including our resident informants Izzy and Noogie, who could certainly be called scum with no value if you're not a cop. what i was trying to say, it's that the film gives a kind of nobility to the bad guys. which they are not, they are just scum. there was a typical case like this in France, a man called Redoine Faïd. the guy was from a bad neighborhood. and he started as a kid stealing stuff in supermarkets. and his thing was to plan everything carefully, even to steal candies. then he grew up and naturally became a bank robber. and some media started to praise him as a good bank robber, with extremelly careful preparation, with no death, and so on. until happened what should happen. during one of his robberies, fire gone out, and a policeman got killed. there is no romance in bank robberies, it's just s... Edited September 17, 2020 by jpaul1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 vor 10 Stunden schrieb Bren10: with all due respect: MM is apparently running out of ideas. Heat itself was a remake of his own 1989 movie LA takedown. This sequel/prequel/remake industry is just due to lack of original ideas, the most important ingredient for a good movie. If I were him I would sit down and think about great scripts and then start developing instead of doing another reverse engineering approach like with MV: take a known story or characters/actors and then artificially derive a garden variety script just to justify the plot and the actors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, jpaul1 said: what i was trying to say, it's that the film gives a kind of nobility to the bad guys. which they are not, they are just scum. there was a typical case like this in France, a man called Redoine Faïd. the guy was from a bad neighborhood. and he started as a kid stealing stuff in supermarkets. and his thing was to plan everything carefully, even to steal candies. then he grew up and naturally became a bank robber. and some media started to praise him as a good bank robber, with extremelly careful preparation, with no death, and so on. until happened what should happen. during one of his robberies, fire gone out, and a policeman got killed. there is no romance in bank robberies, it's just s... This guy was actually influenced by "Heat" and once approached Michael Mann at a Paris Film Festival and told him; "You were my technical adviser." Edited September 17, 2020 by RedDragon86 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaul1 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 not sure he was influenced by the movie, because he was a burglar since kid. but yeah i saw this. it was during his pseudo redemption phase. he wanted probably to get some sort of influence into Mann's future movies. then the cop murder happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Vigilante Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Yep, leave it alone. Heat is a darn near perfect film. There are so many good stories out there that Mann could put his own stamp on. Unfortunately, studios these days will only back reboots/remakes/sequels. Nostalgia is a sure bet these days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoryjones Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Well, I'd just like that MM got back to the spotlight. A too good director to be nearly forgotten during the past ten years or so. If I am not wrong, things started to get on the wrong foot with "Public Enemies" and "Luck" (I did like them both!), and "Blackhat" didn't help him, either (I did like that one, too). Whatever MM is doing, I am interested in it. Nevertheless, I agree with @Mr. Vigilante, leave "Heat" as it is. He has enough talent, artistic personality and style to start a great project from scratch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 I know this is the wrong thread, but in retrospect, he should have left Miami Vice alone, too. Maybe he will think of that before it’s too late with Heat. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Hanna Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 Hope Mann tries a new genre instead of doing more crime dramas. But if he did a western, you know it's going to be about a sheriff and his posse hunting down a gang of outlaws/bank robbers. I enjoy Last of the Mohicans, Ali and The Keep more just because their so different from his other work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Vincent Hanna said: But if he did a western, you know it's going to be about a sheriff and his posse hunting down a gang of outlaws/bank robbers. ...with bull sperm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 He is in pre-production of the Enzo Ferrari biopic. It was announced June this year that Hugh Jackman will be taking on the lead role in Mann’s long-in-the-works biopic, which is titled Ferrari and is aiming to start filming in Spring 2021. That would be something refreshing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted September 17, 2020 Report Share Posted September 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, RedDragon86 said: He is in pre-production of the Enzo Ferrari biopic. It was announced June this year that Hugh Jackman will be taking on the lead role in Mann’s long-in-the-works biopic, which is titled Ferrari and is aiming to start filming in Spring 2021. That would be something refreshing. AWESOME!!! Thanks for the heads up! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 Michael Mann has been really quiet in last five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaul1 Posted September 19, 2020 Report Share Posted September 19, 2020 On 9/17/2020 at 9:54 PM, RedDragon86 said: He is in pre-production of the Enzo Ferrari biopic. It was announced June this year that Hugh Jackman will be taking on the lead role in Mann’s long-in-the-works biopic, which is titled Ferrari and is aiming to start filming in Spring 2021. That would be something refreshing. this is very interesting. always wanted to know a bit more about Enzo personnality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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