TylerDurden389 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 Not a fan of IPA's, but with those colors I couldn't pass them up. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 The “Jai Alai” beer is really good if you ever need to chase a kill shot It’s an IPA also though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 Don’t like the bitter flavor? I love IPA’s but many prefer a less hoppy brew. I also like black coffee, dark chocolate, and other bitter flavors. Nice find though! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, pahonu said: Don’t like the bitter flavor? I love IPA’s but many prefer a less hoppy brew. I also like black coffee, dark chocolate, and other bitter flavors. Nice find though! I’m no beerologist, but IPAs are always good to me—so much more complex and bold than regular beer. I like regular beer too though. I’m with you on the “bitter” stuff too pahonu. I drink straight espresso shots every morning, and anyone who tries them almost gags in my face. Tastes amazing to me though. I also like dry wine or scotch, but I rarely consume alcohol of any kind. I always enjoy it when I do though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Dadrian said: I’m no beerologist, but IPAs are always good to me—so much more complex and bold than regular beer. I like regular beer too though. I’m with you on the “bitter” stuff too pahonu. I drink straight espresso shots every morning, and anyone who tries them almost gags in my face. Tastes amazing to me though. I also like dry wine or scotch, but I rarely consume alcohol of any kind. I always enjoy it when I do though! Some people have a palate for more bitter flavors it seems, but I think we’re in the substantial minority. My wife loves salty stuff like chips. I hear that one a lot, but I think most people have more of a sweet tooth. I make espresso on the weekends usually and drink it straight too. I’ve seen the gag reflex in people that you speak of. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, pahonu said: My wife loves salty stuff like chips. I hear that one a lot, but I think most people have more of a sweet tooth. We're really trailing off here, but what the hell: I love sweets, but I have to finish with something salty--like if I eat a piece of cake, I have to go find a potato chip to finish up on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 4 hours ago, Dadrian said: We're really trailing off here, but what the hell: I love sweets, but I have to finish with something salty--like if I eat a piece of cake, I have to go find a potato chip to finish up on. Interesting! I can’t eat really sweet desserts like some cakes and cookies without having coffee with it. Otherwise I get about three bites in and I’m done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfie1996 Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 17 hours ago, Dadrian said: I also like dry wine or scotch, but I rarely consume alcohol of any kind. I always enjoy it when I do though! Try the yellow absinthe (80% proof) It's my favourite! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Dadrian said: I’m no beerologist, but IPAs are always good to me—so much more complex and bold than regular beer. I like regular beer too though. I’m with you on the “bitter” stuff too pahonu. I drink straight espresso shots every morning, and anyone who tries them almost gags in my face. Tastes amazing to me though. I also like dry wine or scotch, but I rarely consume alcohol of any kind. I always enjoy it when I do though! IPAs are as complex as a skunk popsicle in my view. Having dabbled in the world of small breweries, I can tell you IPAs are the easiest and fastest beer to brew...and the easiest to cover up mistakes with. If you screw something up, add more hops and call it a triple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Robbie C. said: IPAs are as complex as a skunk popsicle in my view. Having dabbled in the world of small breweries, I can tell you IPAs are the easiest and fastest beer to brew...and the easiest to cover up mistakes with. If you screw something up, add more hops and call it a triple. You have further proven my claim of being a non-beerologist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 19 minutes ago, Robbie C. said: IPAs are as complex as a skunk popsicle in my view. Having dabbled in the world of small breweries, I can tell you IPAs are the easiest and fastest beer to brew...and the easiest to cover up mistakes with. If you screw something up, add more hops and call it a triple. Skunk popsicle is frickin’ hilarious. Having only made home brew myself, and not having any kind of microbrewery experience, I can’t comment on using hops to cover up mistakes. I do know that I really like beers that are hoppy but even more so, malty brews. When I hear triple, I think of Belgian tripels which are wonderfully malty not hoppy. I also enjoy Scotch ales for that reason. I also remember learning along the way that the high hops of IPA was originally included by UK brewers because it minimized spoilage on the long sail to India for their product. Are you writing this down Dadrian. It’s your first lesson on the road to becoming a beerologist! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, pahonu said: Skunk popsicle is frickin’ hilarious. Having only made home brew myself, and not having any kind of microbrewery experience, I can’t comment on using hops to cover up mistakes. I do know that I really like beers that are hoppy but even more so, malty brews. When I hear triple, I think of Belgian tripels which are wonderfully malty not hoppy. I also enjoy Scotch ales for that reason. I also remember learning along the way that the high hops of IPA was originally included by UK brewers because it minimized spoilage on the long sail to India for their product. Are you writing this down Dadrian. It’s your first lesson on the road to becoming a beerologist! The IPA story is something of a misnomer. The first IPAs were actually brewed in a port city that had (a) hard water and (B) a bumper crop of hops. You can't make a decent pilsner with hard water, and lagers require cooler brewing temps to do properly (unless it's a steam or California common, which is another story). So this enterprising town used the excess hops with their hard water and shipped off IPAs. One advantage of sending them to sea...if no one likes the skunk popsicle they can't really complain about it. Hops will cover just about any brewing mishap when it comes to flavor...it overpowers everything else. I'm more of a dark beer fan. You want complex flavor profiles, there you go. One beer snob piece of advice, though: always try to find stout on nitro. It was designed to be served that way and tastes MUCH better on nitro as opposed to straight CO2. Porter is somewhat similar, although it was designed specifically to keep the British working class feeling full and slightly buzzed during the Industrial Revolution. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 @timm525this thread may need to be renamed “Beerology - 101” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted April 21, 2021 Report Share Posted April 21, 2021 (edited) I believe that Allsopp & Sons developed the export variety for the British East India Company over 200 years ago. I’m interested in the details about the port city with hard water and excess hops. Do you have any more details? Edited April 21, 2021 by pahonu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCBman Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 21 hours ago, Dadrian said: ...if you ever need to chase a kill shot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, OCBman said: Was hoping someone would catch that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 1 hour ago, pahonu said: I believe that Allsopp & Sons developed the export variety for the British East India Company over 200 years ago. I’m interested in the details about the port city with hard water and excess hops. Do you have any more details? I no longer have the book that had the original story (it was a volume dealing with international varieties of beer and brewing instructions for most of them), sadly...didn't really need it once I left that particular industry. I believe it was focused on the Bow Brewery, though. Allsopp was one of the early brewers of the type, but not the only one. The focus on hops, though, does make IPAs adaptable to just about any type of water, while pilsners in particular are much more reliant on soft water. And both pilsners and lagers require more time to brew (around a month or more as opposed to maybe two weeks if you're rushing an IPA) and more skill to get them right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pahonu Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Robbie C. said: I no longer have the book that had the original story (it was a volume dealing with international varieties of beer and brewing instructions for most of them), sadly...didn't really need it once I left that particular industry. I believe it was focused on the Bow Brewery, though. Allsopp was one of the early brewers of the type, but not the only one. The focus on hops, though, does make IPAs adaptable to just about any type of water, while pilsners in particular are much more reliant on soft water. And both pilsners and lagers require more time to brew (around a month or more as opposed to maybe two weeks if you're rushing an IPA) and more skill to get them right. Interesting, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kladdagh Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 I like it a lot ... I'll looking for them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassagrande.M Posted April 22, 2021 Report Share Posted April 22, 2021 Nice thread. Not tried that mia version of that beer before but here in the UK, there is a Brighton based company that also sells “Miami Weiss”. I was lucky enough to try it last year, very hoppy and full of flavour. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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