Shill Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Different styles and management, but who was better? I always thought Lou ran a more chaotic OCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maria714 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Different styles and management' date=' but who was better? I always thought Lou ran a more chaotic OCB[/quote']I fully agree with you Shill. I like Castillo better. He ran a tighter OCB than Rodriguez did. Not that I have anything against Gregory Sierra, but some actors are better cut out for the part than others. Just my opinion though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Lou was more like Crockett's friend. Crockett liked, and respected him, as did the team, however, Castillo brought what Lou lacked. Discipline.Martin IMMEDIATELY brought repect, and toughness. Like it's been said before, he was the glue that held them together.Martin thought through things clearly, when others emotions got the best of them.Martin had patience. He rarely flew off the handle.Lou would yell quite often. Martin just had to glare without raising his voice. You got the message.He wasn't afraid to discipline someone, or take them off a case if the person was not thinking straight, or needed a break.I think between Lou and Martin, Martin had more authority, even though they were both LT.s.Who added more weight if they said they would back you up?Martin had connections and experiences Lou never had.Martin knew more international info as well.Martin brought out the best in you, and you worked hard to gain his respect. It made you a better detective, cop, and person.LT. MARTIN CASTILLO was the finer of the two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted October 14, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yep. I agree. And he took to getting shot better too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chum981 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wish I had a boss like Castillo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsy Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hope it will make sense, but in my opinion Rodrigez made Vice have a kind of Hill Street Blues feel. Castillo is what made Vice just that. Vice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I think Rodrigues was all right. And it was funny to watch like him and Crockett screaming at each other... "Shut up, Crockett, and I'll explain!" Just hillarious.But I prefer Castillo - not even because he is a "better boss" or something, this is all very relative... Just because he made a more unusual character and also presented a contrast to Crockett's wild temper, which was very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Hope it will make sense' date=' but in my opinion Rodrigez made Vice have a kind of Hill Street Blues feel. [/quote']That's very true Rodriguez did have a very "Hill Street Blues" feel - did Gregory Sierra quit or was he simply brought in for those first 4 episodes?I liked Lou Rodriguez, and as our Glossary here states he had a 1970s feel about him.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 That's very true Rodriguez did have a very "Hill Street Blues" feel - did Gregory Sierra quit or was he simply brought in for those first 4 episodes?I've read somewhere that he had quit, but I don't remember why, perhaps because of some personal reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 After MV - Gregory Sierra made a career out of guest-starting in other tv shows as a Police Lieutenant in huge 80s show "Cagney and Lacey" as well as other shows as "Murder She Wrote". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scot from S.C. Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Sierra wanted off the show from what I heard. He hated the heat and humidity in Miami, or so the story goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christine Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 For me, it´s difficult to compare Rodriguez and Castillo because Rodriguez left MV after a very short time. We didn´t get time to get to know him and his character better. But with Castillo you´re all right. He had authority and everybody respected him. It wasn´t necessary for him to shout. He spoke quietly and everybody had to listen if he didn´t want to dismiss an order.Castillo was a good boss, but so was Rodriguez. He was always worried about his employees and I think he shouted at Sony because they both had a similar temper. But it was Rodriguez who helped Rico when he wanted to stay and work in Miami as a policeman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 After MV - Gregory Sierra made a career out of guest-starting in other tv shows as a Police Lieutenant in huge 80s show "Cagney and Lacey" as well as other shows as "Murder She Wrote".He was also a cop in "BARNEY MILLER". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shill Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Sonny actually suspected Lou of being a bent cop in Brothers Keeper. That is something nobody would have accused Castillo of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony D. Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Christine beat me to saying that we didn't see enough of Rodriquez. Rodriquez was 'old school' where Castillo was completely different than what we saw in the past. EJO tailored the roll to his personality. Which really worked! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shill Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Maybe Timm could set up one of his famous Polls here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodriguezisdead Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Boy was I glad when Rodriguez died... ... but I guess you figured that one out already ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Sonny actually suspected Lou of being a bent cop in Brothers Keeper. That is something nobody would have accused Castillo of.By the way, does anyone remember any explanation about how Lou got the money for that expensive school? :confused:It was rather obvious that he wasn't a bad cop after all, and Sonny's suspections were wrong... but no explanation, this topic kind of stayed hanging in the air.Maybe I've just forgotten somehing, then remind me, please... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shill Posted October 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 castillo's acting is rather automated though. Lou was more of a method actor i think, someone who could improvise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Boy was I glad when Rodriguez died... ... but I guess you figured that one out already ! Well, in fact I didn't... I thought maybe you meant some other Rodriguez. Do you really dislike him so badly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 castillo's acting is rather automated though. Lou was more of a method actor i think' date=' someone who could improvise.[/quote']Well, of course I'm not really an expert... But I've read somewhere (most probably on this forum) about a funny episode, when EJO said something that wasn't in the script, and PMT was totally confused and didn't know what to say. Then DJ had to improvise too to save the scene. If I'm not mistaken it was one of Castillo's famous phrases, somethink like "Never come to my face like this again, detective..." So I guess he was capable of improvisation, LOL... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Prince Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 By the way' date=' does anyone remember any explanation about how Lou got the money for that expensive school? :confused:It was rather obvious that he wasn't a bad cop after all, and Sonny's suspections were wrong... but no explanation, this topic kind of stayed hanging in the air.Maybe I've just forgotten somehing, then remind me, please...[/quote']I think it was his wife who took a loan, but I could be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheetah Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Thanks anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 It was still good to have Lou Rodriguez for those opening 4 episodes anyway - set a different kind of tone - before Castillo was introduced in Episode 6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodriguezisdead Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Well' date=' in fact I didn't... I thought maybe you meant some other Rodriguez. Do you really dislike him so badly?[/quote'] Trouble is, without Castillo, Vice just ain't Vice, you know what I mean? So the quicker they got rid of Rodriguez the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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