MVfan Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 This is something I thought of that I've never paid attention to while watching MV. When Sonny's shown in a bar, what kind of drink does he usually order? This may be a silly question, but I've honestly never noticed. Did he have a "usual"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shill Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I think he ordered bourbon once? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrators Ferrariman Posted April 16, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 You will almost always hear Sonny order a Black Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVfan Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Just out of curiosity, what's in that? Or, is that another name for Jack Daniel's straight (like black coffee)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 16, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yep, Just JD. Nothing else in it.I think they may have called it that so that they didn't advertise a brand name.On most eps (and all tv shows) you almost never see the label on a bottle or can. It is turned sideways. You can see it and you know what it is, but it is not in "direct view" of the cameras.Look for this when watching tv shows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVfan Posted April 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 That makes sense, like you said, so they wouldn't appear to be endorsing Jack Daniel's. Thanks for the info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 16, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 I for one had never heard the term "Black Jack" when Vice was on in the 80's. I recall trying to look it up in a mixed drink/bar tending book my parents had but it was not in there.I think that was a term made up of the show.Maybe some of the older (than me) members would know better. Anyone else ever hear that term used before Vice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted April 16, 2009 Report Share Posted April 16, 2009 Yep' date=' Just JD. Nothing else in it.I think they may have called it that so that they didn't advertise a brand name.On most eps (and all tv shows) you almost never see the label on a bottle or can. It is turned sideways. You can see it and you know what it is, but it is not in "direct view" of the cameras.Look for this when watching tv shows.[/quote']However, Lowenbrau was shown quite prominently from bottles, to banners, to race cars, to race jackets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yep! And I'll bet they PAID for every advertisement too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Ferrariman Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 I'm not a drinker or an authority on Whiskey but I believe what Crockett drinks is not Jack Daniels but actually Johnnie Walker. Johnnie Walker comes in several varieties with either a red, blue, black or gold label.. crockett drinks the black label blend, hence the name "Black Jack" (Jack is also another name for John) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 That is interesting. Sounds reasonable to me.Has anyone googled "BLACK JACK" under drinks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Well there were a whole lot of JD bottles through out the series. Take a look at the bottle he is drinking on the boat after Caitlin dies and Tubbs comes aboard. JD all the way IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Blackjack RecipeIngredients My Bar 1/2 oz Triple Sec 1 oz Coffee Liqueur 1 1/2 oz Scotch Whisky 1/2 oz Lemon Juice http://www.drinkswap.com/drinks/detail.asp?recipe_id=1060 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 However' date=' Lowenbrau was shown quite prominently from bottles, to banners, to race cars, to race jackets.[/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yep! And I'll bet they PAID for every advertisement too!Yep! And I'll bet they PAID for every advertisement too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sonny-Burnett Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Well there were a whole lot of JD bottles through out the series. Take a look at the bottle he is drinking on the boat after Caitlin dies and Tubbs comes aboard. JD all the way IMHO.I am recalling that we discussed this around early summer of last year, I think, and I'm with you Timm on this one as Jack Daniels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Yea, I'm thinking that this one was discussed in another place at another time. But the outcome was I think the same.I also have to disagree with my employer here and say that it is not Johnnie Walker Blue, Red, Black, etc. That is not too common a drink to order compaired with JD and with the appearance of all the bottles that highly resemble JD I can only say that my final answer is: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 17, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 From "Deliver Us from Evil".Take a close look at the label on the back of the bottle. It says "Old Time Kentucky Whiskey" not "Tennessee Whiskey", but look closely at the graphics on the label. And look at the etching on the glass at the top of the bottle on the right side. Looks to me a lot like Jack Daniel's. Also look at the signature at the bottom of the label too. Notice the lack of a bar code and the lack of the government warning on the bottle.@ 0:33:44Now take a look at the pic I took of a bottle of JD from my home. The label says "Old Time Tennessee Whiskey". The graphics are the same on this bottle, so I think JD changed their label slightly after 20+ years. The signature at the bottom of the label looks the same, only the addition of their web site is now present which was not available in the 80's as there was no internet then. The picture of the guy is different too, but that too could have been changed after 20+ years and with the internet address.The graphics in these "seal the deal" in my opinion here. Got to be Jack Daniels, at least for this ep.Also, JD was/is a "macho - man's man" drink then and now. I think Sonny would have drank this brand.Take a look at the side of the bottle, look at the neck of the bottle, the black label and white lettering and the curve of the lettering.@ 0:36:56 Now take a look at the pic from my bottle at home. Same neck of the bottle, the black label and white lettering and the curve of the lettering.Gotta be the same label on the bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Great stuff Tim!I'm completely sold!Your evidence is OVERWHELMING!Of course they could have slightly changed the label. Look how things change. JACK IN THE BOX is changing thier logo a bit, KFC now has Mr. Sanders wearing an apron. Everything is updated.You are 100% correct, and your PHOTO evidence PROVES IT.A little off subject, but not too far off, notice how the "McCormick garlic powder" label is directly facing the camera.P.S. They have updated the 80's McCormick label too, as it no longer looks like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 18, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'll bet the McCormicks bottle was an oversite. Take a look at the Chianti bottel. Can't see the label there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Perhaps it's just alcohol products? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators timm525 Posted April 18, 2009 Administrators Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 No, if you watch the Food Network, all the cooking shows hide the labels too.I think they just don't want to give products free advertising.If they are paid, well that changes everything doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOPER&BURNETT Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I'll show my head if I'm paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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