Crockett's Drink of Choice


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So there's a price on your head eh? Kind of like a reverse bounty. Exactly how much are we talking about?

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I think it's Jack Daniel's too. It's got to be, although I'm sure there's some 'cooler' beverage than it, it's still a tough guy's choice in most films, and in real life too I guess, it's a popular choice, personally if I must have a spirit then it's usually JD.

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Evan's Breakfast 'Drink of Champions' - PoolsideI'm sure this has been discussed somewhere, GOOFs or Continuity, but notice how Evan's bottle (a JD Black Label knockoff, generic Hollywood stunt brand) keeps repositioning to different sides every time the camera cuts back to his character, during Guzman's discussion about 'his chef can make more than ice cubes' for him....

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I for one had never heard the term "Black Jack" when Vice was on in the 80's. I recall trying to look it up in a mixed drink/bar tending book my parents had but it was not in there.I think that was a term made up of the show.Maybe some of the older (than me) members would know better. Anyone else ever hear that term used before Vice?

"Black Jack" is an old southern slang term for black lable Jack Daniels sour mash whiskey. Growing up in Atlanta, I heard the term from my Dad and Granddad all the time, as well as their friends usage of the term. Of course, ya'll already know that about the lables, but I thought I'd provide a little southern history concerning the term.
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Is this JD Crockett drinks in both scenes of "Deliver us from Evil" (when he learns Caitlin was pregnant and, after, when he was cleaning the boat) the Jack Daniels called "number 7"?I got a Jack Daniels number 7 for my birthday last week, and I think I'll open it on new year's eve. It will be double pleasure to learn that is the drink my all time favorite hero used to drink...Nice picture investigation, timm525. I'm very into that kind of details.Technically, a JD is not a bourbon, but a Tennessee/sour mash Whiskey, right?I'm not a specialist on that. But even though I have no doubt after the photos he is drinking JD, anyone knows why in his bottle you read "Kentucky Whiskey" and in later bottles (like timm525's or mine) you read "Tennessee Whiskey"?PS: I remember Crockett asks Julio in "The Great McCarthy" to bring him a bourbon.

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Technically' date=' a JD is not a bourbon, but a Tennessee/sour mash Whiskey, right?[/quote']Correct. Jack Daniel's Sour Mash is one specific distillation. It's the exact recipe, exact filtering, Oak aging, Etc. They don't blend the batches together, every distillation is a separate entity. The tour is amazing.If you are a Whiskey drinker, you can definitely tell the difference between a Tennessee whiskey, and a Kentucky variety. I have likes and dislikes for both varieties. Bourbon's are blended whiskeys, so called for different distillations 'blended' together for a more pleasing taste. The aroma and afterbite is smoother as well. As an example, try a Jack/Coke, and a Jim Beam/Coke. Do the peanut shuffle game. The 'sour' one is the Jack/Coke, while the 'sweet' one is the Beam/Coke.Some are 'Sipping whiskeys', Like Jack Daniels, Jim Beam, and Maker's Mark, others are better for mixing. Scotch's are a whole 'nother story. Don't get me started on Tequila's, :).Maybe it's time for a 'Personal Favorite Drink' thread.Hijack off.
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Thanks a lot for that info Machine Gun Kelley! Very nice!Timm525, I've visited the other link. Great...Has Jack Daniels ever had any relation to "Kentucky Whiskey"? I've read the Wikipedia article about that company and have not found such relation... It's always Tennessee.In "Deliver Us From Evil": Is it possible that the Vice production tried to avoid such a direct relation to JD and made a "generic" seal closely related to JD but not exactly like it (as they did with Budweiser in the OCB party in "Like a Hurricane")?Just a doubt from someone who doesn't know Jack Daniels very well: Is there any "number 6", "number 5", etc? I ask this because I see "number 7" in JD...

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Thanks a lot for that info Machine Gun Kelley! Very nice!
You're welcome.
Has Jack Daniels ever had any relation to "Kentucky Whiskey"? I've read the Wikipedia article about that company and have not found such relation... It's always Tennessee.
No' date=' Jack Daniels is distilled in Tennessee. It has not' date=' nor ever has been, in any way, shape, or form, a Kentucky whiskey.
In "Deliver Us From Evil": Is it possible that the Vice production tried to avoid such a direct relation to JD and made a "generic" seal closely related to JD but not exactly like it (as they did with Budweiser in the OCB party in "Like a Hurricane")?
Possibly. Or a mistake on the stage/production crew's part. Then it was fixed' date=' or modified to fit the dialog. Maybe they were waiting on 'permissions'.
Just a doubt from someone who doesn't know Jack Daniels very well: Is there any "number 6"' date=' "number 5", etc? I ask this because I see "number 7" in JD...[/quote']Old No. 7 was the name of the pack mule used, back in the day.:)Seriously, there's several legends surrounding the 'Old No.7' on the label. You can read about it on the Jack Daniels website.
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What about the mojito as drink of choice in the 2006 movie. I don't think this was a carry over from the TV series, at least none I can remember. Or was it?

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I remember him often drinking beer. Don't know if it's just me but he never seemed to enjoy it. Every time he took a sip from his beer, he always made a face or grinned. Maybe Don didn't like beer... :confused:

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Yep! And I'll bet they PAID for every advertisement too!

Wellcraft GAVE them boats.....and that was pretty damn cheap advertisement money when you come to think about it.
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Check out this topic in the gloassary too.Click ---> here

WOW, this is some serious sleuthing, Timm. Excellent work and thanks. I was also a Lowenbrau drinker when Vice was running and, though I hate to admit it now, also drank wine coolers. I remember we had a thread debate early last year on the "Jack Black" topic and it didn't occur to me that perhaps the writers came up with this to avoid free advertising for Jack Daniels. :clap:
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I remember him often drinking beer. Don't know if it's just me but he never seemed to enjoy it. Every time he took a sip from his beer' date=' he always made a face or grinned. Maybe Don didn't like beer... :confused:[/quote']I seem to remember him doing that with the hard liquor, not so much the beer.I think it may have been due to the burn of the alcohol.
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Well maybe it's his drinking face then :)I brought this up because I watched "Trust Fund Pirates" the other night and it just bothered me. Sonny, Rico and Jackson were drinking at the "Arc Light" before the deal was going down. I watched Sonny's face as he was looking at his beer. He looked distressed. Maybe it was part of the acting and/or the situation they were into. When I enjoy beer, I enjoy it. Just a thought....

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Jack Daniels all the way...Product placement was not "big business" back then like it is today. Also, you have to consider the time. Advertisments for "hard" liquor were universally rejected by all the networks and their affiliates. That said, they rebadged a bottle or two changing some of the wording and presto... no ruffled feathers and no need to pay the Jack Daniels for using their image.

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A la Crockett's drink...I was watching the Pioneer Special Edition laserdisc of Basic Instinct a few nights ago and the term "black jack" is used several times referring to Jack Daniels, pertaining to Nick "Shooter" Curran's (Michael Douglas) propensity for abusing it. When I go to the bar this Friday, I'm going to order a "double black jack on the rocks" and see if the barkeep knows what I'm talking about.And the addition of mojitos in the Miami Vice movie was a pretty crass capitalization on the silly middle class craze on that particular cocktail in the mid-noughts. Sonny Crockett doesn't need to sink to the depths of a suburbanite douche drink in order to get laid. I'll drink a triple black jack to that notion.

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I'm going to order a "double black jack on the rocks" and see if the barkeep knows what I'm talking about.And the addition of mojitos in the Miami Vice movie was a pretty crass capitalization on the silly middle class craze on that particular cocktail in the mid-noughts. Sonny Crockett doesn't need to sink to the depths of a suburbanite douche drink in order to get laid. I'll drink a triple black jack to that notion.

Beware, you might get a double of ice coffee on the rocks. The bartending book I have lists that as what a "Black Jack" is. Then again, you might just get a double shot of Jack Daniels on the rocks too! :thumbsup:
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From "Deliver Us from Evil".Take a close look at the label on the back of the bottle. It says "Old Time Kentucky Whiskey" not "Tennessee Whiskey", but look closely at the graphics on the label. And look at the etching on the glass at the top of the bottle on the right side. Looks to me a lot like Jack Daniel's. Also look at the signature at the bottom of the label too. Notice the lack of a bar code and the lack of the government warning on the bottle.@ 0:33:44deliverusfromevil.jpgNow take a look at the pic I took of a bottle of JD from my home. The label says "Old Time Tennessee Whiskey". The graphics are the same on this bottle, so I think JD changed their label slightly after 20+ years. The signature at the bottom of the label looks the same, only the addition of their web site is now present which was not available in the 80's as there was no internet then. The picture of the guy is different too, but that too could have been changed after 20+ years and with the internet address.jackdanielsbottle.jpgThe graphics in these "seal the deal" in my opinion here. Got to be Jack Daniels, at least for this ep.Also, JD was/is a "macho - man's man" drink then and now. I think Sonny would have drank this brand.Take a look at the side of the bottle, look at the neck of the bottle, the black label and white lettering and the curve of the lettering.@ 0:36:56 deliverusfromevil2.jpgNow take a look at the pic from my bottle at home. Same neck of the bottle, the black label and white lettering and the curve of the lettering.jackdanielsbottle2.jpgGotta be the same label on the bottle.

 

 

Happy St Patrick's Day!   Thought I'd bump this thread for those who haven't seen it before, and perhaps to incite a little imbibing this evening.  :)

( & Hats off to timm525 for his sleuthing.)

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"Black Jack" !

 

The standards and special branding of Tennessee whiskey are an outgrowth of the special designation granted long ago to bourbon. A half-century ago, Congress declared bourbon a distinctive product of the United States. By law, bourbon must be made of a grain mix of at least 51 percent corn, distilled at less than 160 proof, have no additives except water to reduce the proof and be aged in new, charred white oak barrels.

Spirits that don't follow those guidelines can't be sold as bourbon. One example is Brown-Forman's own Early Times, which is marketed as a "Kentucky whisky" because it is made in reused barrels.

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