What will the 2020s be like?

[mjcmmv]

1 minute ago, Robbie C. said:

Never got into any of that, especially since in many cases you don't really control your information. Or if you do it's very hazy.

I am determined to get off this invasive grid. No one should be able to control my information flow and I won't rest until I can shut this crazy nonsense down!

[Marc]

 My outlook for the next decade and beyond is not that entirely positive.

We start off with the smart money on Trump winning a second term despite Big Tech trying to engineer the result. The democrats have no real solid candidate and they’ll rig the primaries again against who the public actually want to run against him, learning nothing from the Hillary defeat. Only no Russians to blame this time.

In the run up to the election we’ll see further censorship, YouTubers, Facebook and Twitter accounts purged who go against the mainstream message and people labelled “far right”, “nationalists” etc as justification for their removal. In the USA I’ve been following alarming changes in the definition of Anti-Semitism and here in Britain they’re really trying to push through new Islamaphobia laws which make criticising a foreign state illegal and religious practices blasphemous.

New social media sites will spawn as an alternative, a lot of content I watch has already started moving from YouTube to BitChute but visitor numbers are low and I’m not sure they’ll do well without advertisers onboard. I see the Internet potentially splitting due to political views. As a result people will become more entrenched and aggressive. There will be an increase in political violence and attacks from Antifa for example.

If I had to make a prediction how the Internet will change I’d say they’ll stop allowing you to post anonymously, message boards will become under threat and Internet Service Providers will increasing block content and sites like 4chan. Everyone will have to be verified and their real name revealed which will shut down debate because of fears speaking up and saying anything controversial will put you at risk of losing your job or be charged for committing an ever expanding list of “hate speech".

America will fair better than other countries because of the constitution but for the rest of the West will see us facing an ever more serious threat to our freedom of speech giving those in power ultimate control of the narrative and shutting down who they answer to. I have absolutely no faith in the British government or if we remained in Europe, the EU to protect our rights.

There will be more racial tensions, calls for reparations, stakes raised in the oppression Olympics with groups vying to be the biggest victim in society and further push back against immigration. This is a really critical time in history and the self hatred white people are taught to believe on a daily basis is getting beyond parody at this point. The three pillars of white guilt; Slavery, Colonialism and the most important event in world history according to the education syllabus - the Holocaust are not what should define people of European decent.

I think there’s a good chance of another staged 9/11 event happening, check out Christopher Bollyn’s videos and books if you want a well researched theory to who the real perpetrators were that day. This will be done to get America into war with Iran since recent false flags Neocons have helped orchestrate haven’t done the trick. Whether this happens and the resulting conflict is under Trump's leadership or his successor I’m not sure. I think there’s a greater chance a warmongering Democrat led government are in power for the public to go along and accept it. The conflict will make Iraq and Afghanistan look like nothing.

The Middle East region will suffer disastrous scenes and a huge death toll on all sides. Palestinians will be caught up, losing further claim to their land and I foresee the destruction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque which is crucially situated on the dome of the rock. Zionists after 2,000 years of waiting, praying in it’s direction will finally be able construct their Third Temple at the temple mount which they believe is foundation stone of the earth and so they can proceed with their end times prophecy.

One of the consequences will another refugee crisis accelerating Islam’s inevitable conquer of Europe which looks to be a certainty at this point for those looking at the long game. Germany, Italy, France, Britain and Sweden will  be besieged with some genuine refugees but mostly economic migrants from Africa just like 2016 only this time in far greater numbers. 

As a result of European countries transforming they’ll be some resistance but the government will come down hard on those opposing Muslims making up a larger portion of the population. It’s going to be a real clash between Islam and Christianity and I fully expect more terrorist attacks and tensions over the next decade but I’m not sure we’ll see a full war break out between them any time soon. Muslims communities will gain more control in society through elections and representatives in public office.

This is all conjunction with birthrates further declining due the current generations stuck with student debt, poor career opportunities and lack property ownership will result in the native population having less children and being replaced even more rapidly.

Culturally, I don’t really care at this point. I turn on the television and see nothing intended for me. Comedy shows in Britain are no longer commissioned because they’re deemed “too white”. Director of the BBC have gone on record and said they would never fund a show like Monty Python today became it was four white guys from upper class background and doesn’t reflect the “diversity is our strength" message they want to push. As someone who's British I don't feel London belongs to native people anymore and is more of a foreign land than our capital. White British are already now a minority and that’s who dictates our culture unfortunately. 

I’ve honestly given up consuming new films, tv shows and popular music. There will be more superhero movies, obsession with celebrities, Hollywood will continue pumping out films with a blatant agenda. Every Oscar winner and nominated film recently has delivered an obvious message to program how you’re supposed to think. Netflix who I think are the worst of all at contribute some really awful shows will face some challengers from Amazon, Disney and Apple but should still hold top spot.

Jobs will carry on dying out as automation takes further hold. We all know about self driving cars and they’re the most likely occupation, truckers, taxis, delivery drivers to go next. I can see paper money will start to be less common and made more difficult to spend so easier for them to track our habits. There’s a claim from Israel they're  the world leader of cyber security and is vying to be a world’s central bank for digital money... 

As for the rest of the world China will continue it’s journey to become a legit super power. It’s still a place that terrifies me because they’re adapting at breakneck speeds and it's happening too fast for them to come to grips with. I read they used more concrete in three years (2011-2014) than the United States did in the entire 20th Century. They’re taking control of the world’s ports, roads and much of sub-saharan Africa for the minerals. See Documentary Empire of Dust (2013) for an amusing Chinese perspective of Africa. 

If I had the option I’d move out of the city, abandon our over reliance on technology and start my own farm before things turn bad. Home schooling your children and living off the grid seems the best existence right now.

[Tommy Vercetti]

Someone's been watching Aut Right videos I see. White British are a minority? England is 85% white, Wales is 95% white and Scotland is 96% white. 
There's been muslims in Europe for a century now. In the 19th and early 20th Century France colonised Tunisia and Algeria and as a result there are nearly 6 million native born French citizens that are muslims. It hasn't destroyed France or caused "white extinction" in France. France is still 85% white. Same in Germany. From the 1960s to this very day, Germany has accepted a huge influx of workers from Turkey and as a result there are around 2 million muslims in Germany. It hasn't ruined Germany or caused "white extinction" there. Germany is still 89% white. It's actually been good for Germany as these migrants have worked, been productive and contributed to Germany's status as an economic and industrial powerhouse. So all this garbage that the far right peddles about immigration ruining Europe is just racist fear mongering. All European countries are overwhelmingly white and that isn't going to change and it shows you how little the far right actually knows about their precious Europe.
I also believe that feeling shame for slavery  and colonialism is completely justified. If you have decency that's how you should feel about those events. I'm not a "self hating white" or whatever other crap the far right would call me. I've just got my facts straight. Unlike the far right.

Here's a great scene from a great movie that totally nails it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4Q6JBYGxw

[James]

• Trump will win 2020 elections
• Music will get shitter and weirder, more hyper-sexualised and also pushing progressive Hollywood agendas.
• Fashion will get weirder with cross-dressing being even more encouraged by corporations as they push their gender-neutral mental illness. 
• Street riots will become even more violent as domestic terrorist groups such as Antifa grow and counter-groups will form to fight against them.
• Internet censorship will become a hugely policed thing, perhaps harsher internet censorship against piracy. But also with old fashioned traditional or conservative views being censored, labelled a far right extremist nazi racist sexist homophobic islamaphobe and removed from platforms like Facebook. Oh you think there are only two genders? BANNED FOR LIFE. YouTube already started removing historic footage of Nazi's and Hitler from their platform, this sort of censorship of history may become mainstream with 9/11 videos being censored next along with anyone who speaks out against the establishment. Also think something like China where you can't access 90% of websites. 
• CCTV will have facial recognition and be sold to corporations for advertising. These new systems track you where ever you walk, study your habits and what you're shopping for and then send advertisements for those products to your phone (they already exist and are being tested in Darwin, Australia), but later will be used for more serious things I.E. to make sure you're conforming. 
• Gun bans
• The economy and world banks will collapse, everyone except for the 1% will be living in poverty. Tonnes of people will be starving in the streets. Cities will look something like those movies like Escape From New York. Bitcoin will be the richest currency as 1 BTC will be worth $100,000 or even more as people want an anonymous form of payment (see next listed item).
• Physical money will no longer be legal tender. Card payments and bank transfers only. Option to get chip implant so you just swipe your hand across the sensor. "Extremists" or basically anyone who doesn't follow the progressive narrative will be blacklisted and not allowed to use services like MasterCard with financial blacklisting of conservatives (already happening), therefore will have no choice but to use Bitcoin which explains my previous list. https://www.google.com/search?q=mastercard+conservitive+ban
• World War III will begin in around 2024-2025 after Trump's second term ends. Fought against the Middle East, possibly Iran in particular. Nukes will be launched, billions will be killed. 
• In 2029 to end World War III, members of the United Nations signs a peace agreement and in which where we no longer have nations but states, the UN leaders control the whole planet and we no longer have Presidents or Prime Ministers nor can we vote for the UN leader. The world will be like George Orwell's 1984. Anyone who resists will be labelled an extremist and imprisoned or killed.
• A mysterious object appears in the sky, gets closer, and bigger, and then I start listening to "The End" by The Doors. 

Yeah I started off realistic but got carried away.  

50 years ago: People looking into the future positively, predicting flying cars, robots, etc. 

Today: People looking into the future depressingly, predicting our downfall. A sign of the times? lol

[Tommy Vercetti]

It's strange that some on this forum are even fans of Miami Vice since it was a multicultural show with black and Hispanic persons.

 

3 hours ago, James said:

• Trump will win 2020 election

No!!!! Four more years of Albert Spica from The Cook, The Thief... eating junk food, watching Fox News all day, tweeting and doing rallies in non election seasons. I sincerely hope not. It's just one piece of garbage after another. Clinton, Dubya, Obozo, Trump. It's depressing. Don't forget the Republicans got trashed in the midterms so I wouldn't be so sure of a Trump second term

Trump is Albert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuDrYOw4tBU

Edited July 2, 2019 by Tommy Vercetti

[James]

1 hour ago, Tommy Vercetti said:

It's strange that some on this forum even fans of Miami Vice since it was a multicultural show with black and Hispanic persons.

 

No!!!! Four more years of Albert Spica from The Cook, The Thief... eating junk food, watching Fox News all day, tweeting and doing rallies in non election seasons. I sincerely hope not. It's just one piece of garbage after another. Clinton, Dubya, Obozo, Trump. It's depressing. Don't forget the Republicans got trashed in the midterms so I wouldn't be so sure of a Trump second term

Trump is Albert:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuDrYOw4tBU

The silent majority hate woke culture and socialism. Trump will win out of resistance against that. Trust me. 

[Tommy Vercetti]

They also hate facts and truth. Their savior is a fat couch potato TV addict? Laughable. I can assure you that Trump really doesn't have their interests at heart.

To clarify, I'm not a socialist. I hate socialism, especially of the Sanders variety. I'm not political at all. I'm apolitical.

 

Edited July 2, 2019 by Tommy Vercetti

[Ferrariman]

This site is the extent of my social media.

[IA-SteveB]

Now that this thread has turned political, I'm out. 

[Marc]

7 hours ago, James said:

50 years ago: People looking into the future positively, predicting flying cars, robots, etc. 

Today: People looking into the future depressingly, predicting our downfall. A sign of the times? lol

The only positive outlook is that gen z have some clue what's going on more than a lot of adults do. 

 

[pahonu]

15 hours ago, Tommy Vercetti said:

It's strange that some on this forum are even fans of Miami Vice since it was a multicultural show with black and Hispanic persons.

 

I was thinking the same when I read your comment. 

[Robbie C.]

9 hours ago, IA-SteveB said:

Now that this thread has turned political, I'm out. 

Likewise.

[BunMVO]

21 hours ago, Marc said:

 My outlook for the next decade and beyond is not that entirely positive.

We start off with the smart money on Trump winning a second term despite Big Tech trying to engineer the result. The democrats have no real solid candidate and they’ll rig the primaries again against who the public actually want to run against him, learning nothing from the Hillary defeat. Only no Russians to blame this time.

In the run up to the election we’ll see further censorship, YouTubers, Facebook and Twitter accounts purged who go against the mainstream message and people labelled “far right”, “nationalists” etc as justification for their removal. In the USA I’ve been following alarming changes in the definition of Anti-Semitism and here in Britain they’re really trying to push through new Islamaphobia laws which make criticising a foreign state illegal and religious practices blasphemous.

New social media sites will spawn as an alternative, a lot of content I watch has already started moving from YouTube to BitChute but visitor numbers are low and I’m not sure they’ll do well without advertisers onboard. I see the Internet potentially splitting due to political views. As a result people will become more entrenched and aggressive. There will be an increase in political violence and attacks from Antifa for example.

If I had to make a prediction how the Internet will change I’d say they’ll stop allowing you to post anonymously, message boards will become under threat and Internet Service Providers will increasing block content and sites like 4chan. Everyone will have to be verified and their real name revealed which will shut down debate because of fears speaking up and saying anything controversial will put you at risk of losing your job or be charged for committing an ever expanding list of “hate speech".

America will fair better than other countries because of the constitution but for the rest of the West will see us facing an ever more serious threat to our freedom of speech giving those in power ultimate control of the narrative and shutting down who they answer to. I have absolutely no faith in the British government or if we remained in Europe, the EU to protect our rights.

There will be more racial tensions, calls for reparations, stakes raised in the oppression Olympics with groups vying to be the biggest victim in society and further push back against immigration. This is a really critical time in history and the self hatred white people are taught to believe on a daily basis is getting beyond parody at this point. The three pillars of white guilt; Slavery, Colonialism and the most important event in world history according to the education syllabus - the Holocaust are not what should define people of European decent.

I think there’s a good chance of another staged 9/11 event happening, check out Christopher Bollyn’s videos and books if you want a well researched theory to who the real perpetrators were that day. This will be done to get America into war with Iran since recent false flags Neocons have helped orchestrate haven’t done the trick. Whether this happens and the resulting conflict is under Trump's leadership or his successor I’m not sure. I think there’s a greater chance a warmongering Democrat led government are in power for the public to go along and accept it. The conflict will make Iraq and Afghanistan look like nothing.

The Middle East region will suffer disastrous scenes and a huge death toll on all sides. Palestinians will be caught up, losing further claim to their land and I foresee the destruction of the Al-Aqsa Mosque which is crucially situated on the dome of the rock. Zionists after 2,000 years of waiting, praying in it’s direction will finally be able construct their Third Temple at the temple mount which they believe is foundation stone of the earth and so they can proceed with their end times prophecy.

One of the consequences will another refugee crisis accelerating Islam’s inevitable conquer of Europe which looks to be a certainty at this point for those looking at the long game. Germany, Italy, France, Britain and Sweden will  be besieged with some genuine refugees but mostly economic migrants from Africa just like 2016 only this time in far greater numbers. 

As a result of European countries transforming they’ll be some resistance but the government will come down hard on those opposing Muslims making up a larger portion of the population. It’s going to be a real clash between Islam and Christianity and I fully expect more terrorist attacks and tensions over the next decade but I’m not sure we’ll see a full war break out between them any time soon. Muslims communities will gain more control in society through elections and representatives in public office.

This is all conjunction with birthrates further declining due the current generations stuck with student debt, poor career opportunities and lack property ownership will result in the native population having less children and being replaced even more rapidly.

Culturally, I don’t really care at this point. I turn on the television and see nothing intended for me. Comedy shows in Britain are no longer commissioned because they’re deemed “too white”. Director of the BBC have gone on record and said they would never fund a show like Monty Python today became it was four white guys from upper class background and doesn’t reflect the “diversity is our strength" message they want to push. As someone who's British I don't feel London belongs to native people anymore and is more of a foreign land than our capital. White British are already now a minority and that’s who dictates our culture unfortunately. 

I’ve honestly given up consuming new films, tv shows and popular music. There will be more superhero movies, obsession with celebrities, Hollywood will continue pumping out films with a blatant agenda. Every Oscar winner and nominated film recently has delivered an obvious message to program how you’re supposed to think. Netflix who I think are the worst of all at contribute some really awful shows will face some challengers from Amazon, Disney and Apple but should still hold top spot.

Jobs will carry on dying out as automation takes further hold. We all know about self driving cars and they’re the most likely occupation, truckers, taxis, delivery drivers to go next. I can see paper money will start to be less common and made more difficult to spend so easier for them to track our habits. There’s a claim from Israel they're  the world leader of cyber security and is vying to be a world’s central bank for digital money... 

As for the rest of the world China will continue it’s journey to become a legit super power. It’s still a place that terrifies me because they’re adapting at breakneck speeds and it's happening too fast for them to come to grips with. I read they used more concrete in three years (2011-2014) than the United States did in the entire 20th Century. They’re taking control of the world’s ports, roads and much of sub-saharan Africa for the minerals. See Documentary Empire of Dust (2013) for an amusing Chinese perspective of Africa. 

If I had the option I’d move out of the city, abandon our over reliance on technology and start my own farm before things turn bad. Home schooling your children and living off the grid seems the best existence right now.

Omg, you really pulled no punches in this post. I happen to agree with pretty much everything you said, you might be relieved to hear.

But you may have just ignited a flamewar, because you know the way our opponents react to this discussion. LMAO.

I kind of hinted at this whole situation without explicitly stating anything like you did. But it's one of the reasons I fear the future very much, because I see the direction we're moving in and I don't like it.

Hopefully mods don't lock this topic and will allow further discussion. If they did lock it, it would just be case in point.

[Robbie C.]

I'd refer you to line 13 in the forum Guidelines. They're pretty clear, and having served as a mod on much more combative forums I understand their position. It's their house, so we should respect them and abide by the guidelines.

And now I'll leave you all to it. I've got stories to write, after all.

[James]

46 minutes ago, Robbie C. said:

I'd refer you to line 13 in the forum Guidelines. They're pretty clear, and having served as a mod on much more combative forums I understand their position. It's their house, so we should respect them and abide by the guidelines.

And now I'll leave you all to it. I've got stories to write, after all.

Yeah, but I think Chris/KaeptnCaipi wrote those guidelines. I'm a lenient guy who is a firm believer of freedom of speech no matter what ones views are. I let things go unless they develop into all out war or racist attacks. And there's also Tim and Lou who are American, and I'm sure they support the First Amendment.

In my opinion, this thread hasn't progressed into a fight yet, therefore I see nothing wrong with it... Yet. 

[BunMVO]

1 hour ago, Robbie C. said:

I'd refer you to line 13 in the forum Guidelines. They're pretty clear, and having served as a mod on much more combative forums I understand their position. It's their house, so we should respect them and abide by the guidelines.

And now I'll leave you all to it. I've got stories to write, after all.

The thing is, this thread is none of those. It's a thread to discuss how we see the near future occurring. The things we've discussed are unfortunately a reality.

I understand the whole rule against starting such threads to incite a flamewar. However, I disagree with shutting down all discourse simply because it's made you uncomfortable. There are a wide variety of people here and more perspectives makes for engaging discussion. After all, this is the "off topic" section.

[BunMVO]

19 hours ago, Tommy Vercetti said:

Someone's been watching Aut Right videos I see. White British are a minority? England is 85% white, Wales is 95% white and Scotland is 96% white. 
There's been muslims in Europe for a century now. In the 19th and early 20th Century France colonised Tunisia and Algeria and as a result there are nearly 6 million native born French citizens that are muslims. It hasn't destroyed France or caused "white extinction" in France. France is still 85% white. Same in Germany. From the 1960s to this very day, Germany has accepted a huge influx of workers from Turkey and as a result there are around 2 million muslims in Germany. It hasn't ruined Germany or caused "white extinction" there. Germany is still 89% white. It's actually been good for Germany as these migrants have worked, been productive and contributed to Germany's status as an economic and industrial powerhouse. So all this garbage that the far right peddles about immigration ruining Europe is just racist fear mongering. All European countries are overwhelmingly white and that isn't going to change and it shows you how little the far right actually knows about their precious Europe.
I also believe that feeling shame for slavery  and colonialism is completely justified. If you have decency that's how you should feel about those events. I'm not a "self hating white" or whatever other crap the far right would call me. I've just got my facts straight. Unlike the far right.

Here's a great scene from a great movie that totally nails it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4Q6JBYGxw

I'm sorry but this is totally untrue. Nations have been conquered at much slower rates.

Have you ever looked at the trends? With the way things are going, whites are slated to be extinct in a short amount of time. This is statistical. Native Europeans and Euro-Americans have an extremely low birthrate and all other races have extremely high, climbing birthrates. What's wrong with white people existing in the nations they created?

Look at Japan for example. Japan is almost 100% Japanese and reject virtually all immigration. Yet no one cries "racist" at them. Why would that be? You don't just get to call everyone "racist" and shut down all opposition anymore. Maybe 10 years ago. People are sick of it and not taking it anymore.

[Robbie C.]

6 minutes ago, pmconroy said:

The thing is, this thread is none of those. It's a thread to discuss how we see the near future occurring. The things we've discussed are unfortunately a reality.

I understand the whole rule against starting such threads to incite a flamewar. However, I disagree with shutting down all discourse simply because it's made you uncomfortable. There are a wide variety of people here and more perspectives makes for engaging discussion. After all, this is the "off topic" section.

It doesn't make me uncomfortable. I find it annoying. Big difference. It's all about trends and cycles in any case. Wait a few years and you'll understand what I mean. And as a history person I find much of the discourse so poorly-informed (from any side) that it's just not worth it.

[BunMVO]

38 minutes ago, Robbie C. said:

It doesn't make me uncomfortable. I find it annoying. Big difference. It's all about trends and cycles in any case. Wait a few years and you'll understand what I mean. And as a history person I find much of the discourse so poorly-informed (from any side) that it's just not worth it.

You find it annoying to hear opinions other than your own? This isn't an echo chamber, we have Reddit for that. And why wait a few years? I've probably been on the internet as long as you have.

[James]

Uhhh... Maybe a good time to shake hands and get back on topic with the thread. The future.

[BunMVO]

7 minutes ago, James said:

Uhhh... Maybe a good time to shake hands and get back on topic with the thread. The future.

I agree. The future is terrifying and I can't wait to die. Case closed.

[James]

1 hour ago, pmconroy said:

I agree. The future is terrifying and I can't wait to die. Case closed.

It's funny though isn't it. As I said in my previous post, if you look back 30-40-50 years ago people looked into the future positively. Imagining flying cars, robots, like The Jetsons. But ever since the new millennium it's all doom and gloom, people look to the future and all we see is darkness. It seems humanity has taken a wrong turn somewhere along the road. After Y2K, and 9/11, everything changed. We're like a Doomsday culture now. Or perhaps we can just spiritually feel something big coming and don't know how to react. 

Just look at the direction of all the posts in this thread, bad music, bad fashion, negative technology consuming us, climate change, political tensions, etc...  

Can't even imagine myself getting old. 

[Kladdagh]

I wish in 2020, I'll win lottery ...  ... 

 

[jpaul1]

7 hours ago, James said:

It's funny though isn't it. As I said in my previous post, if you look back 30-40-50 years ago people looked into the future positively. Imagining flying cars, robots, like The Jetsons. But ever since the new millennium it's all doom and gloom, people look to the future and all we see is darkness. It seems humanity has taken a wrong turn somewhere along the road. After Y2K, and 9/11, everything changed. We're like a Doomsday culture now. Or perhaps we can just spiritually feel something big coming and don't know how to react. 

Just look at the direction of all the posts in this thread, bad music, bad fashion, negative technology consuming us, climate change, political tensions, etc...  

Can't even imagine myself getting old. 

lot of nowadays pessimism is the result of the economic crisis. the poor have hard time paying the bills, and the rich makes profit by billions. . all we see nowadays, the first represents the majority, this gives a gloomy society

Edited July 3, 2019 by jpm1

[Ferrariman]

I'm still waiting for those flying cars in "Blade Runner" After all, the film was set in 2019.

Aside from that, I would also like to see this thread return to more of a good natured topic.  And just for the record, the current regime is responsible for Guideline 13.   I believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion and I do believe in the 1st amendment.   However, the rule was added simply because we've seen these discussions go south way too many times. Here's my personal amendment:

Rule 13 a    If the discussion can remain civil, it continues. Once it gets out of hand it gets locked. 

This is a very peaceful site, please let's keep it that way.