S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 In the early 1980's the federal government could NOT control the typhoon of billions of dollars cocaine was making in south florida (MV). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Bro I"m talking about loose Unaccounted for money. Not appropriated. Your talking about appropriated COUNTED money. I'm talking about money that no one paid a cent of tax on that completely was invisible. Like when the Rangers and SEALS took Panama. Watch BLOW w/ Johnny Depp. The US military took a bank that had vaults filled w/ USD's that completely disappeared. We're talking about over 10billion 1979 dollars! Edited September 28, 2019 by S.FL84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Sorry, bro. I don't get my history from movies and TV. But knock yourself out. I'll be over here reading "Killing Pablo" and maybe some Hemingway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 10billion is reality. Your living in a delusion if you think the federal government didn't steal tons of $$ from the cocaine cartel from 1979 to 1986. Edited October 3, 2019 by S.FL84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 Here's reality > Jung says Noriega stole his 68 million. He was a low level player compared to the cartel so you can easily multiply that by 100 when you factor in the fact they ALL put their $$ in Panama. We're talking about about 20-30 HIGH level players. At the (3:37 mark) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 No part of the US government ever has had nor ever will have around 10 billion loose unaccounted for USDs. EVER. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jpaul1 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, S.FL84 said: Bro watch COCAINE COWBOYS. They bought just about EVERY ranking politician in Dade county. It got soo bad Jon Roberts asked a sargeant w/ the North Bay if he could unload duffel bags of cocaine BEHIND the police dept from a boat on the canal. The sargeant said "I'll tell ya what gimme $50k (about 200k in today's money) & we'll it put in a patrol car and take wherever you want so it'll for sure get there". < This is a FACT! Later the FBI arrested the entire damn dept down to the secretaries and janitors. https://www.apnews.com/ae1d9cbece762d08ca39875b7e2ed6ed The infamous "river cops" were stealing about $700k/wk from coke dealers then killing them. Several of them are STILL in prision. No disrespect but you have NO clue as to just how powerful the Medellin Cartel was in 1984. NONE. https://www.nytimes.com/1986/10/12/us/7-former-officers-on-trial-in-miami.html https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article110313597.html http://www.miamibeach411.com/news/miami-river-cops 1 hour ago, squeezem3 said: Well, it's one thing to pay a few cops, even though they were higher ranking ones. But the government in Washington DC was still on a different power level. They have proven that later with the war on drugs, DEA operations in Colombia and so on. But of course, the cartel had a massive impact on Florida during the first half of the 80s. Today's skyline in Miami wouldn't be the same without the cocaine dollars. yeah this is what i was pointing out. i lived in Colombia in the 80s so i know what was the Medellin cartel. Escobar had lot of cash, this is a fact, but you can't put on the same level the US government, and a druglord C. Lehder set up a kind of logistical base at Norman's cay in the Bahamas. he was watering everyone with cash there. and was acting like a king there. but after NBC made a documentary about the place, and they brought the thing to the public attention, the Medellin cartel started to enter the USA line of fire. and almost immediately the local Bahamas authorities stopped any support to Lehder. they actually took the pretext of the plane who crashed into the sea to stop helping him. it was a smuggling plane whose pilots were high on drugs, and during a night landing they misunderstood the runway lights, and the moon, and they finished into the sea so yes the Medellin cartel had lot of cash, but they were nothing compared to the US government. proof is that, even though they didn't win the war on drugs, the USA won the war against the Medellin cartel. they shut down tranquilandia, they shut down norman's cay, they made arrangements with local governements to transform the cartel life into an hell. by giving intel to Colombian governement, or by spoiling narcos from their bank accounts, or getting evidences.. Edited September 28, 2019 by jpaul1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Then you know by the time Delta took Escobar out (who btw worked for Papa Ochoa) there were so many other competitive cartels the US had NO (0) hope of eradicating them. Escobar had less than Griselda Blanco who had nothing compared to the silent man Papa Fabio Ochoa. Half of Ledher's $$ he stole from George Jung which is how he paid for Norman's Key after Jung was arrested in Miami. By the time Ledher bought the Key he 24/7 stayed sooo coked out his mind he was barely coherent half the time and the rest he just slept slobbering all over himself impotent unable to F the chicks he paid for. Edited September 28, 2019 by S.FL84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) As I originally stated. The federal government was nothing from 1979-1982 compared to the enormous corruptive influence of the Medellin cartel's billions. They could buy anything or anyone they wanted. Once the federal government started focusing alot of power on them of course they won....eventually. All the government could do was arrest people. The cartel, as Escobar said, would give gold or lead. 99% of time whoever it was no matter how high they were took the gold. The RICO act changed everything. https://www.nytimes.com/1984/07/01/us/key-west-police-department-called-a-criminal-enterprise.html Edited September 28, 2019 by S.FL84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) Again...from 1979 to about 1982 which is basically what MV was built around the Colombian cocaine cartel had such an incredibly MASSIVE amount of power in Broward County they basically ran it. The city, county, state or even federal government to an extent were all influenced to a degree by the endless supply of money. There was simply a tidal wave of money that once it took root was invincible....for a few yrs. This is what made MV such an incredible show which really was in effect a very sanitized, diluted but flashy television show that was better than anything before or after it. Edited September 29, 2019 by S.FL84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Calderon Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 11 hours ago, mjcmmv said: I agree! It hurts to see kids glued to their phones. They're not as active physically or socially. I can't imagine what is doing to their brains! Not only kids, but me with 50yo too. Im always reading something on the phone. The problem is...after the smart phone invention, my eyes are getting quickly bad. "Ah what do you expect with 50 yo?" I feel this shit is getting worst much faster with smartphone than using only computer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 16 minutes ago, Mr. Calderon said: Not only kids, but me with 50yo too. Im always reading something on the phone. The problem is...after the smart phone invention, my eyes are getting quickly bad. "Ah what do you expect with 50 yo?" I feel this shit is getting worst much faster with smartphone than using only computer. I hear you! I work on the computer. I stare at the I-phone. I read books on the IPAD. My eyes are shot! And, I sit way too much. Technology will be the death of us if we're not careful! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, mjcmmv said: I hear you! I work on the computer. I stare at the I-phone. I read books on the IPAD. My eyes are shot! And, I sit way too much. Technology will be the death of us if we're not careful! I haven't succumbed to reading screens, and refuse to do so. But part of that's what I read. History stuff doesn't translate well there, and I find my retention is much better if I read print than a screen. Just the physical act of turning pages seems to help. I try to stay off the smart phone as much as possible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaul1 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 this is why i don't buy that VR thing. i'm pretty sure that thing is ruining its users eyes, and no one doesn't say anything. everyone is approoving. somebody stated on these forums once, i don't remember who, i think it was miamijim, but i'm not sure, as it was years ago. nowadays it seems that everything has gone insane nowadays, compared to the 1980 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, jpaul1 said: this is why i don't buy that VR thing. i'm pretty sure that thing is ruining its users eyes, and no one doesn't say anything. everyone is approoving. somebody stated on these forums once, i don't remember who, i think it was miamijim, but i'm not sure, as it was years ago. nowadays it seems that everything has gone insane nowadays, compared to the 1980 It's simply moving faster. Technology is many ways is just an accelerator of things that have happened before. Too many just aren't aware enough to put on the breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Robbie C. said: It's simply moving faster. Technology is many ways is just an accelerator of things that have happened before. Too many just aren't aware enough to put on the breaks. We need to remind one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpaul1 Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 this is the real face of narcos, and more globally mafia. clowns, just clowns. i'm not pushing down the guy, as he was a second knife, and is in jail right now. but they are totally dumb. talking of USA corrupted by pormographia while they're running a sodoma & gomorrha island, congratulating Lara Bonilla assassination. they are just dumbf.. put these clowns into a balance, and put the US government in the other side, and you'll see what happen the cartels harmed a lot with their cash flows, but they were just clowns (like any mobster) in spanish sorry, but good documentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Calderon Posted September 29, 2019 Report Share Posted September 29, 2019 12 hours ago, jpaul1 said: this is why i don't buy that VR thing. i'm pretty sure that thing is ruining its users eyes, and no one doesn't say anything. everyone is approoving. somebody stated on these forums once, i don't remember who, i think it was miamijim, but i'm not sure, as it was years ago. nowadays it seems that everything has gone insane nowadays, compared to the 1980 Im old, buuuut.... tablets arent a thing anymore...when they released it i got thinking..."heck...what for a device where i cant type quickly? And lacking of other features too?" Now they are talking about VR and those stupid glasses... Do you think should we wearing those googles all the time? Really? I dont use my regular glasses all the time (on the street), will i need a VR google to do many things? Some stuff seems dead on the design since the day one, but tech heads are pushing it to sell that crap. Stay hungry, stay foolish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerry B. Posted October 2, 2019 Report Share Posted October 2, 2019 (edited) On 9/28/2019 at 1:33 AM, Mr. Calderon said: We were happy and we didnt know it... Believe it or not, I did know it, and also knew it wouldn't last forever. I did my best to hold back and deeply live those times as much as I could. But you know, best isn't always enough. Btw, those years were and will always be the best time in my life. Edited October 3, 2019 by Jerry B. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.FL84 Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 There were no limits. Life was just one party after the next. Now it's just one funeral after the next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer84 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 (edited) Thought this was interesting How the Prime Time Schedule for 1983-1984 looked like before Miami Vice came on, showing Remington Steele at 10 p.m. what was to became MV's timeslot: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8384.shtml When MV was broadcasted 10 p.m. during the first two seasons: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8586.shtml And when NBC decided to move MV to the 9 p.m. time slot for S3, which had an impact on the ratings placing it on the same hour as CBS's Dallas: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8687.shtml The show was moved back to it's original timeslot for the last season airing next to Falcon Crest again: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8889.shtml And how the timeslot looked like, when Miami Vice sadly ended with some TV Show called Mancuso FBI being showed instead: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8990.shtml Edited October 5, 2019 by summer84 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted October 5, 2019 Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 18 hours ago, summer84 said: Thought this was interesting How the Prime Time Schedule for 1983-1984 looked like before Miami Vice came on, showing Remington Steele at 10 p.m. what was to became MV's timeslot: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8384.shtml When MV was broadcasted 10 p.m. during the first two seasons: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8586.shtml And when NBC decided to move MV to the 9 p.m. time slot for S3, which had an impact on the ratings placing it on the same hour as CBS's Dallas: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8687.shtml The show was moved back to it's original timeslot for the last season airing next to Falcon Crest again: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8889.shtml And how the timeslot looked like, when Miami Vice sadly ended with some TV Show called Mancuso FBI being showed instead: http://www.inthe80s.com/prim8990.shtml Great info Thankyou. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer84 Posted October 5, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2019 Thanks. You're welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted October 6, 2019 Report Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, summer84 said: Thanks. You're welcome! Shame the network played around with the time slot nothing affected a show more back in the mid to late 80s. Edited October 6, 2019 by Matt5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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