Extras in the OCB

[airtommy]

Let's talk about the various minor characters we see in the OCB throughout the series!   Named, unnamed, credited, uncredited, whatever.

• bald cigar guy
• Mark with red hair
• Dio with reddish blond hair
• Lester Kosko --- played by Julio Oscar Mechoso
• Pepe the janitor --- played by Enrique Bravo, Sr.
• Don --- played by Raymond Forchion
• Patty --- played by Cynthia Caquelin
• mustache guy --- played by Joseph B. Remy
• brunette woman --- played by Sara Rogers, Saundra Santiago's stand-in
• brunette woman --- played by Ms. Seiden

I will keep updating this post.

 

 

 

 

Edited May 19, 2020 by airtommy

[airtommy]

I'll start with an obscure one:

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0285468/

In "Stone's War" Raymond Forchion played "O'Hara", one the CIA goons chasing after Ira Stone.  But he got his start on Vice playing an OCB character named "Don". 

In "Cool Runnin" he is in the scene where Noogie gets booked at the OCB.  Tubbs walks up to him and says "Hey Don" and then they have a long conversation that you can barely hear.

Later Don & Trudy banter as they go to Lou's office.  Don says "That kind of spray pattern gets serious".

In "Hit List" Don hands Tubbs a file and says "SID found this in the trunk of the shooter's car at the motel".

Edited March 30, 2020 by airtommy

[timm525]

Nice catch. 

[Dadrian]

@airtommy @summer84 you guys have inspired me to start sharing things like this. Maybe we should start a thread about stuff you notice after watching a thousand times.   

I always think “yeah they’ve noticed that” or “they would worry about my psychosis”, but you probably already are anyway.    

Edited March 29, 2020 by Dadrian

[summer84]

Wow, great catch airtommy!

These are some of the other detectives/extras in the squad, that are often seen in the OCB, who appeared on Miami Vice in all five seasons, but not necessarily all episodes.

Seen in the opening of "Evan." Among others. Joseph B. Remy, which is his real name was also a stand in for EJO and Frank Zappa among others. And he had speaking part in S3.

Sara Rogers seen on the right in S1's "Lombard." And S5's "Redemption in Blood." Among other episodes.

She was also a stand in for Saundra Santiago, Sheena Easton and Rita Moreno. And had a line in S3.

The bald guy with cigar in his mouth was also often seen around the OCB. He was probably a regular in all five seasons. Seen in the above pic "Lombard."

And the guy with the red hair, who was referred to by Crockett as Mark, which I recall was also his real name. Also had a speaking part, but I can't remember the exact episode. Seen in "Free Verse." Among other episodes.

And not to forget Robert Hoelscher, who was Miami Vice's technical advisor, he had an acting part in the show, but was also seen in the background without any lines.

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by summer84

[Dadrian]

42 minutes ago, summer84 said:

And he had speaking part in S3.

I’m reeling...can’t recall which episode. (Joseph Remy, Castillo stand-in). 

[airtommy]

On 3/29/2020 at 6:10 PM, Dadrian said:

you guys have inspired me to start sharing things like this. Maybe we should start a thread about stuff you notice after watching a thousand times. 

I always think “yeah they’ve noticed that” or “they would worry about my psychosis”, but you probably already are anyway.

In 2015 when I did my last viewing of the entire series, I made a note to start a thread on OCB characters.  It only took me 5 years and a global plague to get around to it.

Edited March 31, 2020 by airtommy

[summer84]

31 minutes ago, Dadrian said:

I’m reeling...can’t recall which episode. (Joseph Remy, Castillo stand-in). 

I didn't know either, but managed to find the outfit, that Crockett wore in the episode, searching through the MV glossary, which is "Streetwise."

Joseph shared this picture on his website. He says "Crockett, Trudy, line two." Though you don't get to see him clearly.

 

 

Edited March 30, 2020 by summer84

[airtommy]

23 hours ago, summer84 said:

I didn't know either, but managed to find the outfit, that Crockett wore in the episode, searching through the MV glossary, which is "Streetwise."

Joseph shared this picture on his website. He says "Crockett, Trudy, line two." Though you don't get to see him clearly

Good work!  It's around 15:20 of "Streetwise".  You get a decent look at him before he opens the door.

Here's the direct link to the story at his website:  http://josephbremy.com/?p=642

Coop's original thread:   https://miamiviceonline.com/index.php?/topic/12147-miami-vice-crockett-trudy-line-two-stand-in-extra-website-pictures/

[Crockettt]

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0135794

Cynthia Caquelin played in "Cool Runnin' an OCB character named Patty. In "The Lost Madonna" she played women asks about Sigmar's sculpture on an art party.

 

 

Edited March 31, 2020 by Crockettt

[airtommy]

On 3/29/2020 at 8:17 PM, summer84 said:

The bald guy with cigar in his mouth was also often seen around the OCB. He was probably a regular in all five seasons. Seen in the above pic "Lombard."

Yes, I never noticed him until you guys pointed him out a few years ago, and then I started seeing him ALL THE TIME!  I think he has a speaking role in one ep.

[Mr. Vigilante]

Good ol Sigmar!  Too bad we didn't get another episode with him!

[Crockettt]

5 hours ago, Mr. Vigilante said:

Good ol Sigmar!  Too bad we didn't get another episode with him!

Joel Goodman who played Sigmar appeared as CIA Agent Felix Lawson in "Duty and Honor" and as Carl Becker in "Amen Send Money".

Edited April 1, 2020 by Crockettt

[summer84]

15 hours ago, airtommy said:

Yes, I never noticed him until you guys pointed him out a few years ago, and then I started seeing him ALL THE TIME!  I think he has a speaking role in one ep.

I think so too. But I don't remember the episode. Maybe in S2. 

[RedDragon86]

17 hours ago, airtommy said:

Yes, I never noticed him until you guys pointed him out a few years ago, and then I started seeing him ALL THE TIME!  I think he has a speaking role in one ep.

I can't remember the episode either but it was a scene when he hands Rico flowers or a gift and he questions who are they from and he replies something like "there is a card there" 

The Bald guy was part of so many important scenes as well, at the end of "Walk Alone" "The Hit List" (in the night club) "Lombard" safe-house part. In my opinion he was probably a personal friend of a producer because he was included so many times.

Edited April 1, 2020 by RedDragon86

[summer84]

22 hours ago, airtommy said:

Yes, I never noticed him until you guys pointed him out a few years ago, and then I started seeing him ALL THE TIME!  I think he has a speaking role in one ep.

 

4 hours ago, RedDragon86 said:

I can't remember the episode either but it was a scene when he hands Rico flowers or a gift and he questions who are they from and he replies something like "there is a card there" 

 

It's in the S2 episode "LMD." The bald guy hands Rico flowers and says "Hey Tubbs, someone left this downtown for you." Tubbs replies ouhh. It sounds like the guy says "I don't know" and then "There is a card." 

Edited April 1, 2020 by summer84

[Tom]

What about the red haired fellow cop in OCB who appeared in all seasons in the background (they referred to him as „Mark“ once) before he was stabbed to death in the final episode while guarding the safe house?

[summer84]

On 3/30/2020 at 2:17 AM, summer84 said:

Wow, great catch airtommy!

These are some of the other detectives/extras in the squad, that are often seen in the OCB, who appeared on Miami Vice in all five seasons, but not necessarily all episodes.

Seen in the opening of "Evan." Among others. Joseph B. Remy, which is his real name was also a stand in for EJO and Frank Zappa among others. And he had speaking part in S3.

Sara Rogers seen on the right in S1's "Lombard." And S5's "Redemption in Blood." Among other episodes.

She was also a stand in for Saundra Santiago, Sheena Easton and Rita Moreno. And had a line in S3.

The bald guy with cigar in his mouth was also often seen around the OCB. He was probably a regular in all five seasons. Seen in the above pic "Lombard."

And the guy with the red hair, who was referred to by Crockett as Mark, which I recall was also his real name. Also had a speaking part, but I can't remember the exact episode. Seen in "Free Verse." Among other episodes.

And not to forget Robert Hoelscher, who was Miami Vice's technical advisor, he had an acting part in the show, but was also seen in the background without any lines.

 

 

1 hour ago, Tom said:

What about the red haired fellow cop in OCB who appeared in all seasons in the background (they referred to him as „Mark“ once) before he was stabbed to death in the final episode while guarding the safe house?

I also mentioned him in my above post. But didn't know, he was killed. 

He's seen here in a behind the scenes shot of "The Prodigal Son"

Edited April 2, 2020 by summer84

[airtommy]

So it turns out there were two red-heads in the OCB.  It was discussed in this informative (but difficult to read) thread:

https://miamiviceonline.com/index.php?/topic/3073-dear-dumb-dio-died/

They sit at the same desk apparently.  If you sit at Sonny's desk and look past Rico, you would see Mark & Dio's desk.

Mark is identified in Free Verse.  He wheels Sandoval into the conference room.  As Sonny leaves, he says "Mark" and looks at Mark and points to Sandoval in the wheelchair.  Mark does not have a speaking role that I can find.

Dio is identified in The Big Thaw during the opening credits.  Stan yells at him, "Hey, Dio, clean off Sonny's desk, will you?"

Here is Dio with the bald cigar guy.

At the end of Prodigal Son when C&T return to the OCB, I believe this is Mark:

And in the same scene that is Dio sitting down:

 

 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by airtommy

[airtommy]

Here are Mark and Dio together in Lombard:

When Sonny leaves the St Vitus in Lombard, Mark is left behind and Sonny tells him "Make sure you take care of Elvis"

Edited April 2, 2020 by airtommy

[summer84]

16 hours ago, airtommy said:

Mark does not have a speaking role that I can find.

Mark had a speaking part in the same episode, he was identified, "Free Verse," where he says - "Lieutenant, there is a call for Sandoval on the line."

Edited April 2, 2020 by summer84

[summer84]

An extra in the background, that I might not have noticed, if it hadn't been for her son Eric Seiden, sharing these pictures of his mother on the set of Miami Vice. The photos he shared: https://www.flickr.com/search/?sort=date-taken-desc&safe_search=1&tags=miamivice&user_id=18431794%40N00&view_all=1

"This is mom on the set of Miami Vice. She was on the show on and off for years. The set was closed but we took bunches of photos."

Looks like her in the "Dutch Oven"

And in the opening scene of "Yankee Dollar."

 

 

Edited April 2, 2020 by summer84

[RedDragon86]

Is this the extra (Joseph B. Remy) summer84 had mentioned to the right of Tubb's in the background "Rites of Passage?"

Edited April 2, 2020 by RedDragon86

[airtommy]

36 minutes ago, RedDragon86 said:

Is this the extra (Joseph B. Remy) summer84 had mentioned to the right of Tubb's in the background "Rites of Passage?"

It sure looks like him to me!

[airtommy]

Hmmm, in Redemption In Blood when Sonny returns to the OCB, I see 3 red-headed guys!  The first person to draw a gun is obviously Dio:

I think this is Mark but I'm not sure:

And who is this?

Edited April 3, 2020 by airtommy