ivoryjones Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 it's not him. It's Harold Bergman playing the judge, the other one I don't know who he is, but I suspect he played a small part right on the beginning of "Bad Timing" (he speaks about Crockett's mental state on "Bad Timing"). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Caroline Crockett said: I posted the picture earlier, but I guess at the wrong place. Is that him? No, do you see ever he looks like the man which I shared in the two last pics? Edited February 3, 2019 by Joey Hardin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 7 hours ago, ivoryjones said: I don't have the first broadcast of the Pilot, but the very first rerun (January 25, 1985). Actually I've been looking for it for a while. On my NBC copy (as on MCA VHS/Laserdisc versions), I can't notice any difference in comparison with the US DVD and US BD, except of course the colors (very different - check here ). I wonder if that Miami Vice Theme version was some sort of fan remixing? I find no reason NBC would cut that on the very first rerun, in 90-minute one part format just like the first broadcast. I also find not very Jan Hammer style to have nearly nothing new from 2'07'' to the end. In addition, from 2'58'' the remixing seems to have a lot of distortion, a distortion that was absent before 2'58'', which in my opinion indicates that we can rule out that the distortion comes from the VHS or from the analog recording source (in case it's not VHS), so maybe it's just remixing volume that went wrong. But I can't say too much about this, the authority on Jan Hammer's style and on recording techniques is Dadrian. I trust Dadrian's opinion on this not less than I would trust Jan's own opinion!!! Also, if some member has a copy of the very first NBC broadcast, maybe we could be sure if there are differences or not in comparison with later versions (including the first rerun that I have). Well, you said youself you don't have the first broadcast. Maybe his scene were there but on the rerun maybe they edited? Why always they had cutted or shortened scenes from every episodes. Because of NBC Commercial Policies and duration or something? And you could see the same thing on Manhunter 1986 movie and Miami Vice 2006 too. Maybe on Band of The Hand 1986 movie too, never searched the last. But I have seen this thing almost every Michael Mann productions that I ever watched. Edited February 3, 2019 by Joey Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer84 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Crockettt said: It's a fan made version of Miami Vice Theme from the Pilot mixed with Miami Vice Theme (Extended Remix) This version was released on vinyl in 1985 remixed by François Kevorkian. https://www.discogs.com/Jan-Hammer-Miami-Vice-Theme/release/5520651 Thank you very much for clearing it up Crockettt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer84 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) I think this could be Captain Rodney. The Blu-ray could probably give a more clear picture of his face. Edited February 3, 2019 by summer84 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren10 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 For what it's worth that looks pretty close. And he is a "Captain" after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summer84 Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Bren10 said: For what it's worth that looks pretty close. And he is a "Captain" after all. Yes my thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivoryjones Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 1 hour ago, summer84 said: I think this could be Captain Rodney. The Blu-ray could probably give a more clear picture of his face. I think you've solved the case, summer84! That take, as far as I know, is in every version of the Pilot. Yet, I would never never find him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted February 3, 2019 Report Share Posted February 3, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ivoryjones said: I think you've solved the case, summer84! That take, as far as I know, is in every version of the Pilot. Yet, I would never never find him. But his voice was different than Julian Byrd's. Check the voices again between on Brother's Keeper and Heart of Darkness. Edited February 3, 2019 by Joey Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigh Burne Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Joey Hardin said: And you could see the same thing on Manhunter 1986 movie and Miami Vice 2006 too. Maybe on Band of The Hand 1986 movie too, never searched the last. But I have seen this thing almost every Michael Mann productions that I ever watched. Michael Mann is quite notorious for re-editing his productions. Most of his films have been modified in some way for home video. 8 hours ago, Joey Hardin said: But his voice was different than Julian Byrd's. Check the voices again between on Brother's Keeper and Heart of Darkness. Could be dubbed by another actor for whatever reason. Just watched "Golden Triangle (Part I)" the other day, and detective Ross is quite obviously dubbed over with someone else's voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Leigh Burne said: Michael Mann is quite notorious for re-editing his productions. Most of his films have been modified in some way for home video. Could be dubbed by another actor for whatever reason. Just watched "Golden Triangle (Part I)" the other day, and detective Ross is quite obviously dubbed over with someone else's voice. Naah, I don't think so. Det. Ross's voice is him like to me, suggest you check that out again. Doesn't look like a lip sync or dub. But let's wait for Julian Byrd the Blu Ray pic from Brother's Keeper. Edited February 4, 2019 by Joey Hardin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted February 4, 2019 Report Share Posted February 4, 2019 (edited) 23 hours ago, ivoryjones said: it's not him. It's Harold Bergman playing the judge, the other one I don't know who he is, but I suspect he played a small part right on the beginning of "Bad Timing" (he speaks about Crockett's mental state on "Bad Timing"). Harold Bergman isn't credited for playing the doctor either in Knock Knock Who's There? its clearly him. Edited February 4, 2019 by RedDragon86 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caroline Crockett Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 4:13 PM, Joey Hardin said: No, do you see ever he looks like the man which I shared in the two last pics? Ok. Sorry, I was just trying to help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViceFanMan Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 4:29 PM, summer84 said: I think this could be Captain Rodney. The Blu-ray could probably give a more clear picture of his face. This looks like the same guy...I think you’re probably right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViceFanMan Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 On 2/3/2019 at 3:13 PM, Joey Hardin said: No, do you see ever he looks like the man which I shared in the two last pics? 8 minutes ago, Caroline Crockett said: Ok. Sorry, I was just trying to help. No worries, Caroline...it was a good idea and/or possibility! All characters and aspects of the show are interesting and fun to discuss and figure out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Caroline Crockett said: Ok. Sorry, I was just trying to help. Hey, no offense and no need to getting sad. It's ok, thank's for your effort by the way Edited February 5, 2019 by Joey Hardin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Hardin Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 15 hours ago, RedDragon86 said: Harold Bergman isn't credited for playing the doctor either in Knock Knock Who's There? its clearly him. The judge on the pilot, isn't he? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Joey Hardin said: The judge on the pilot, isn't he? Yes. I knew I’d noticed him in another episode, but couldn’t remember the scene. Thanks!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted February 5, 2019 Report Share Posted February 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Dadrian said: Yes. I knew I’d noticed him in another episode, but couldn’t remember the scene. Thanks!! Wow the judge was back and Martha? Ha ha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 Watching this great episode tonight where it all began - in HD/ Blu Ray. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 48 minutes ago, Matt5 said: Watching this great episode tonight where it all began - in HD/ Blu Ray. Always a great night with the pilot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dadrian said: Always a great night with the pilot The best! Always a treat even though it’s not my birthday ha ha 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 16 minutes ago, Matt5 said: The best! Always a treat even though it’s not my birthday ha ha Maybe Stan’s old lady will give you a black transparent tee shirt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dadrian said: Maybe Stan’s old lady will give you a black transparent tee shirt. Yes ha ha - even though we found out later Stan did not in fact have an old lady:) Edited June 27, 2019 by Matt5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDragon86 Posted June 27, 2019 Report Share Posted June 27, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 10:58 AM, Joey Hardin said: The judge on the pilot, isn't he? That's correct and he is also in "Lombard" as a courtroom clerk. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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