Assasinge Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 You cried, she cried, we all cried on that unholy day! Hahahahahah! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assasinge Posted September 21, 2019 Report Share Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, vicegirl85 said: LOL, that was a great scene! Well, we did get one of the most godly gifs of all time with it. Edited September 21, 2019 by Assasinge 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren10 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Once again she makes good points about Mann and Wolf here. But I think that stopping short of the ending that we got would be robbing us of the full repercussions of this case and yet another contributing factor to Sonny's eventual burnout. Plus it would leave us without the titular line being spoken, which is something this episode seems built to get in. To stop the show right after Archie gets shot would rob us of Sonny's cathartic outburst, and to stop it after the outburst itself I feel would just be awkward. In short, I largely agree with what she says about Mann's presentation but not as it pertains to this episode. It will be interesting, however, to see how she handles Shadow In the Dark. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Totally disagree with her on all scenes after Archie‘s death being unnecessary because overexplaining. Maybe she did not watch the last two minutes properly. There are three key messages contained at the end that must not be dropped: 1) Crockett leaning on the wall, completely shattered by Archie‘s death while Switek and Peppin walking by smiling and whistling like nothing happened. Key message: the others can turn off when going off duty, Crockett cannot. This will be important later in the series. 2) Atkins‘ statement: „It was a good collar Crockett“ and „nobody in my unit wanted Walker more than Ramirez“ underlines that and gives the episode its name. Atkins feels a lot when Ramirez dies but even he accepts the collateral damage number two in this case for „the greater good“. 3) the football given back to Crockett who dumps it. Symbol as he gave it to Archie for a new start and to show himself that his work is not useless. When he dumps it, he is broken for the first time in the series as he dumps not just the ball but his own past. He had kept the ball for a long time. cutting out these scenes would have diluted the message and removed the character build up that let to Crockett’s disenchantment later on. Part of good storytelling in VICE is to show the consequences not just the impact. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicegirl85 Posted October 4, 2019 Report Share Posted October 4, 2019 Great comments, Bren 10 and Tom. I agree with both of you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren10 Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Has anyone ever thought of this?: When Crockett puts the flour on his face, that’s creepy enough alone, but the real significance is that no one except the viewer has seen the cat do this. So Crockett was, indeed, dialed into this guy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamijimf Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Agree with Morgan, one of the best episodes, seems like it belongs in season 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadrian Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 25 minutes ago, miamijimf said: Agree with Morgan, one of the best episodes, seems like it belongs in season 2. But the S3 colors really help with the mood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren10 Posted October 11, 2019 Report Share Posted October 11, 2019 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamijimf Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 Thanks, she is a real Vice fan and talented I sent a link to her review of Little Miss Dangerous to Fiona and she loved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 If she had not talked that fast she would have recognized that Alan Moskowitz was not director of this episode (and Aaron Lipstadt not the writer) and that Pierson did not die of a heart attack at the end. He clearly caught a bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 10/8/2019 at 11:57 AM, Dadrian said: Has anyone ever thought of this?: When Crockett puts the flour on his face, that’s creepy enough alone, but the real significance is that no one except the viewer has seen the cat do this. So Crockett was, indeed, dialed into this guy. The victims were always asleep, until the last break in! Good catch! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 9 hours ago, miamijimf said: Thanks, she is a real Vice fan and talented I sent a link to her review of Little Miss Dangerous to Fiona and she loved it. Wow, you did? That's great to hear Fiona's reaction! I'll bet Morgan loved that! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Calderon Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 7:54 PM, Bren10 said: In case anybody missed it, season 2 is being reviewed. I consider this episode, the most mtvesque episode of all. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, Mr. Calderon said: I consider this episode, the most mtvesque episode of all. Even though it's filmed mostly in New York, I agree! Just as Morgan points out, great style, music, and terrific guest stars. Also, for me, the helicopter take down is one of the best MV action scenes ever! This episode's in my top five! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt5 Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, mjcmmv said: Even though it's filmed mostly in New York, I agree! Just as Morgan points out, great style, music, and terrific guest stars. Also, for me, the helicopter take down is one of the best MV action scenes ever! This episode's in my top five! It certainly is a superb episode - MV really featured NY brilliantly. 10/10 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Calderon Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 (edited) lol...you gonna kill me but i think this episode kinda boring....I usually sleep when they are on the swamp part ("what a mess") but it has some good moments ( "are you the legendary jimmy borges?, ""and my mother knows it")....but when i say about mtvesque...its simply about more about voyeuristic style than a story and a tight script. to be honest, i dont like the season two a lot. Edited October 12, 2019 by Mr. Calderon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 58 minutes ago, Mr. Calderon said: lol...you gonna kill me but i think this episode kinda boring....I usually sleep when they are on the swamp part ("what a mess") but it has some good moments ( "are you the legendary jimmy borges?, ""and my mother knows it")....but when i say about mtvesque...its simply about more about voyeuristic style than a story and a tight script. to be honest, i dont like the season two a lot. Naw, I won't kill ya. As Gina would say, "I'll just hang ya up by your thumbs"! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie C. Posted October 12, 2019 Report Share Posted October 12, 2019 I actually prefer season 2 to season 1. There are a handful of strong episodes in season 1, but they don't compare IMO to season 2. At least as far as the writing's concerned. The fashion stuff doesn't excite me. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glades Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) I'd rather read than watch Youtube. And so I searched for a website of Morgan Richter - and found it: http://preppiesoftheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-things-that-make-miami-vice-awesome.html On this site you can find written reviews of currently 15 episodes. And also a general text about Miami Vice. I enjoyed reading it a lot, some good points. Edited October 14, 2019 by Glades 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjcmmv Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 39 minutes ago, Glades said: I'd rather read than watch Youtube. And so I searched for a website of Morgan Richter - and found it: http://preppiesoftheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-things-that-make-miami-vice-awesome.html On this page you can find written reviews of currently 15 episodes. And also a general text about Miami Vice. I enjoyed reading it a lot, some good points. Great find! Thanks!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicefan7777 Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 14 hours ago, Glades said: I'd rather read than watch Youtube. And so I searched for a website of Morgan Richter - and found it: http://preppiesoftheapocalypse.blogspot.com/2009/01/ten-things-that-make-miami-vice-awesome.html On this site you can find written reviews of currently 15 episodes. And also a general text about Miami Vice. I enjoyed reading it a lot, some good points. That was a fun read. Brought back great memories of watching Vice during its first run. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mjcmmv Posted October 15, 2019 Report Share Posted October 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Bren10 said: Well, Morgan summed that up accurately. Awful, awful, awful!!!!! I would have given it one Flamingo, though, not two! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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