The Ferrari Daytonas of Miami Vice

[Kavinsky]

Forgot to mention something so if this is car 2 does this mean that Markadian and Mcburnie tried a different style of grill for the cars at first?http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7889&stc=1&d=1367223869I mean this seems like a more square style of grill along the lines of what the actual cars which is a 100% verticalhttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7891&stc=1&d=1367224008vs what the went with for the latter carshttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7890&stc=1&d=1367223871 wonder why they changed that. was it easier to mount it over the bumpers and with the way car 2 was done did it required screws and more man power to mount it?actually Jurrasic how is it mounted with the rowley one yours has on it?wonder if that means that when they last used car 1 in yankee dollar my eye's didn't deceive me, the grill on both cars were different as it looked more flat on car 1 when they pulled into her place in that episodehttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7893&stc=1&d=1367226205

[jurassic narc]

Car 3

I'm confused - I must have missed something. Where did the picture of the red car come from? And if it is car number 2' date=' where do we have a picture of car number 3? Which car is in the Mardikian 350 picture included in JN's post (above)?[/quote']Mark Cichetti did the interior for two of the original four. One was your car, and one was the third car of the batch. THe pictures attached are of the other car he did, which I assume would be car 3.

[CameraDaytona]

Mark Cichetti did the interior for two of the original four. One was your car' date=' and one was the third car of the batch. THe pictures attached are of the other car he did, which I assume would be car 3.[/quote']Thanks JN and Kavinsky. The pictures of "Car 3" must have been taken while Cichetti was installing the interior - the wire wheels have not been installed yet as well as the front Plexiglas and front emblem.I wonder where the cars are today. I would think it is likely that the Mardikian emblems were replaced, but the emblems on the speedometer and tach probably were not changed. Maybe the seats have been and maybe not.I'm surprised that the other 3 would have been all painted red. McBurnie told me that car 4 was the only one painted black, but I don't remember him saying what the other 3 were. I guess we could ask him.

[Kavinsky]

I see what you mean about the redish tint on car 3 there, looks like the dash, seat stripes and the glove box are all in a redish tint, hell looks like it had a whole red tint theme going for it actually as even the inside of the pockets on the door are lined in a red.now if that shows up there should be some sort of remnants of that red treatment.actually zoom in on this photo, the glovebox compartment door is done up in wood on it!http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7896&stc=1&d=1367272961http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7899&stc=1&d=1367290550just like the center console, burlwood as well, hmm told you these things were like prototypes. Each one probably did and has unique features to either one.Still though why does this one have a dash that looks like car 4?http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7880&stc=1&d=1367220488I mean was car 4 red first? was car 3's dash retrimmed in black or hell did I find car 5? because that really looks like cameras dash from hereLooks like a wood steering wheel on it to in that photo, the first one I mean, just like Car 3, maybe its car 3 with a retrimmed dash?

[jurassic narc]

http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7896&stc=1&d=1367272961http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7899&stc=1&d=1367290550just like the center console, burlwood as well, hmm told you these things were like prototypes. Each one probably did and has unique features to either one.Still though why does this one have a dash that looks like car 4?http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7880&stc=1&d=1367220488I mean was car 4 red first? was car 3's dash retrimmed in black or hell did I find car 5? because that really looks like cameras dash from hereLooks like a wood steering wheel on it to in that photo, the first one I mean, just like Car 3, maybe its car 3 with a retrimmed dash?

It actually it probably a standard McBurnie dash. There were two kinds, one for the pre-78 cars and one for the post 78 cars. Each had a dash cap that looked like the one in the photo. The Cichetti cars have a much more distinctive line to the cap over the speedo area. The McBurnie dash has the less distinctive hump.You have several pictures above of that standard dash. Some were built with more hump than others, but the three vents and the overall look are the same. The difference is where the different colored leather is joined.This is an early McBurnie, and the influence of Car 4 is pretty obvious, but it retains all the Vette gauges and controls.

[Kavinsky]

True but it is a little weird that it has a wood wheel like Car 3 during her construction though in the photo, probably could just a coincidence though.

[Kavinsky]

just out of dumb luck I found that while browsing through my daytona photo section that I hadnt cut off the boundaries of one of those photos of the daytona replicas I found on ebay.http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7972&stc=1&d=1368430080http://www.ebay.com/sch/autolit.com/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=&_ipg=and this is the guy who had them, including the photo of car 3 and 4, mind you to say he has a ton of general car photos would be an understatement.also what do you guys make of these other photos?http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7968&stc=1&d=1368430073http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7969&stc=1&d=1368430075this looks like a mcburine on the left, and a corvari on the righthttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7970&stc=1&d=1368430076Also Cant shake the feeling that after seeing Jurrasics photo of car 1 there that the above car is of it maybe at an later statehttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7971&stc=1&d=1368430078FYI I found these on a french car enthusiast website, found via google when searching daytona replicas awhile back I think

[Kavinsky]

also ace's car from the gallery was on there too with a photo of him sitting on the back of his on the beach.

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=P22egmZ4dD8

http://www.miamiviceonline.com/photoplog/index.php?n=6749&page=1#comment45Sorry ace if you ever see this, I did a cooper and burnett with you on your cars trunk lol I gotta thing about having faces stare at me when I'm trying to do work, I always turn books and photos over when doing something if its staring at me, nothing personal just a focus kinda issue.

[Sonny-Burnett]

I'm confused - I must have missed something. Where did the picture of the red car come from? And if it is car number 2' date=' where do we have a picture of car number 3? Which car is in the Mardikian 350 picture included in JN's post (above)?[/quote']I remain majorly confused on all this. Where are the Markidian photos and those of Cars 1-3 please? :birdie:Think there are so many shots in this thread I cannot find the ones you are referring to. And guys, the interior person is Marc Cicchetto (with an o) as I looked him up as a principal of Auto Design Manufacturing Inc, the same company that did my interior .

[reholmes]

Somewhat off subjectIn the below video, as the Daytona turns the first corner and hits a bump, there is a almost imperceivable puff of white smoke coming from the top of the front tires--or is it my imagination, or is there a clearance issue?

OBTW, how do I embed the first frame of the video in the post?

[Kavinsky]

Cicchetto (with an o) as I looked him up as a principal of Auto Design Manufacturing Inc, the same company that did my interior .

here this is car 1 in its markadian garments posted by jurrasichttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7988&stc=1&d=1368744057Note the non carbed motor and the interior, all black save for the seats, but the rest looks car 1 ish, meaning they changed abit more than we thought for the showthis is car 2, a photo I found awhile back when we found that photo of car 4 in its markadian garments that one night on ebay from the auto lit guy, this was among the photos and Jurrasic had written it off as not being markadian car 2 until I brought up the small details of ithttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7984&stc=1&d=1368743996of which he examined and then said its car 2 (he had written it off because of the round headlights which might have been added afterwards or it was a one off deal with that car like the perfectly flat, not arching grill on it like on the actual ferrari's its got) but the thing that made him change his mind was the markadian badge on the nose and the small lettering on the side that probably says 350 GTS like it did back on the vice car, car 4 here back when it was newhttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7990&stc=1&d=1368744849in 81http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7991&stc=1&d=1368744860Vs how it looked in 84 on the showplus that labeling on the side is probably in the same position it was in on the actual cars when it came to the pinifarina badging that you can see on some of the rowleys and other examples that have been put on by there owners. this is car 3, which jurrasic posted photos of after I said I thought we only had one photo of, namely of the door panel with a grab handle, which was missing off of car 4 in the show.Car 3http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7985&stc=1&d=1368744008car 4now back to car 3 right as it was made before the tires and badges were added.http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7986&stc=1&d=1368744023http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7987&stc=1&d=1368744039http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7989&stc=1&d=1368744836I enlarged that to see the smaller details by the way.Note how the daytona stripes and that everything that is black on the show cars is red on this one and the glovebox is done up in burlwood, like only the center console was done up in on car 4which has been removed since then

[Kavinsky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeL4PhSz4&feature=player_embeddedOBTW, how do I embed the first frame of the video in the post?

Actually both the Countach and the Daytona get knocked a little on that corner. So I think that was more the Front spoiler that goes down the extent of the nose unlike on the countach getting knocked a little as there was some paint scraping in that corner in El Viejohttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7992&stc=1&d=1368746153and since the car was getting written out of S3 they didnt bother doing an overhaul for the cars like they did for S1 to S2.although the 235's 60's they do seem a touch too wide for the front to me, something Brian had noted as well. Hence why he decided to go with 225/60's in the front, although it seems like you need atleast a 65/225 to fill the wheel arches with the 14'son it.http://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7993&stc=1&d=1368746490and I believe this car also has 225's 60's all around sitting on 16 60 spoke wire wheelshttp://corvette.canney.net/webvettes/customized/c0050/index.htmlweird thing is though it looks like the 225's fill the front but not the rear on this one, like theres more space in the rear than the front.Also to get the videos to show up here, embed them I believe you need to click on the strip of film that shows up in the options in the message editor, put the youtube adress into it and it should work like here

http-~~-//www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeL48oPhSz4&feature=player_embedded

[jurassic narc]

here this is car 1 in its markadian garments posted by jurrasichttp://www.miamiviceonline.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7988&stc=1&d=1368744057

Actually this is Car 2. THe only pictures we have of Car 1 are after it was painted.

[Kavinsky]

Actually this is Car 2. THe only pictures we have of Car 1 are after it was painted.

Ah, actually with the mirror placement that does make sense. My mistake then.thought it was car 1 because of the windshield trim.

[Kavinsky]

Also I just found thishttp://www.ebay.com/itm/MOMO-VELOCE-STEERING-WHEEL-BMW-2002-2002TII-/200930485415?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2ec863e4a7&vxp=mtryou did say you were abit more keen with making your car like it was in the show with the airvents and the like.although I have to admit the yellow of the momo writing on this one, to me, just seems to go better with the yellow horn buttonhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/MOMO-Veloce-Steering-Wheel-350mm-Porsche-Mercedes-Benz-BMW-VW-JDM-Miata-Civic-/281115581153?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4173cb5ae1&vxp=mtrmaybe that would be an idea, go with the silver momo horn button with a veloce steering wheel with white lettering like on this one?http://www.ebay.com/itm/ITALVOLANTI-Imola-Steering-Wheel-Momo-Horn-Button-Rx7-240sx-MR2-Supra-Civic-/321133391851?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac50aafeb&vxp=mtr

[jurassic narc]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MOMO-Veloce-Steering-Wheel-350mm-Porsche-Mercedes-Benz-BMW-VW-JDM-Miata-Civic-/281115581153?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4173cb5ae1&vxp=mtrhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/ITALVOLANTI-Imola-Steering-Wheel-Momo-Horn-Button-Rx7-240sx-MR2-Supra-Civic-/321133391851?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item4ac50aafeb&vxp=mtr

Thanks. I bid on the wheel. I have one, but the leather is not in good shape.There is a Momo dealer on eBay who carries the correct horn button. I just like the Ferrari one. I am to the point of making decisions based on my personal likes and dislikes. One of the things that bugs the crap out of me is the correct look for the seats. Mine are not what I wanted. The other is the door handles. I hope to get that corrected this summer.But, the radio antenna on the wrong side (correct for Ferrari, wrong for McBurnie), the grill-which I have yet to see a substitute for other than a Ferrari type, and some of the finishing touches I plan to make my own. I don't want anyone to think I am trying to pose as Car 4, just want as close a copy as I can have and still have my own touches.And I hat that I haven't had time to post anything on here in a while. Work has been crazy. Heroin is here to stay in suburban Georgia, and Meth is not giving an inch either. We arrested a week guy a couple of weeks ago with over $300,000 cash. Took a 2013 BMW in another case. Living the Miami Vice life, for sure.I have driven the car to the office a couple of times, but I park around back to keep from drawing attention to the building. (No, they might fire me if I put a "Gold Coast Trading" sing on the door--but it is a thought).Anyway, I am trying to put some time into upgrades this year. If I wait much longer I'll be to old to be able to get in and out of it!JN

[jurassic narc]

Thanks to KavinskyThanks for keeping this thread alive. I know that Camera Daytona and I don't post as much as we have in the past. Camera has a lot of family matters he was dealing with last time we talked. I have just been swamped with dope dealers.I have even been excited to know that the go-fast boats are making a comeback in the smuggling business. If you live long enough the trends are repeated!!Just waiting to catch our first plane load of meth.Kavinsky, you comments and research keep this thread going, and you manage to come up with some pretty good "diamonds" on occasion. The picture of the red McBurnie is an absolute marvel. I can't make up my mind if it is car one, and the folks on MV changed out the headlights, or if it is truly car two. Either way it is an amazing find in the Miami Vice world. And the big cudo to you is that I had seen that picture on Ebay and ignored it. It was only when you pointed out the logo on the nose that I realized what it was. That thing might have never been recognized if not for you."GOOD JOB, PAL"

[Pritt]

The red Daytona you can find also at the offical Website from Tom McBurnie http://www.thunderranch.com/history.html

[Kavinsky]

Thanks. I bid on the wheel. I have one' date=' but the leather is not in good shape.There is a Momo dealer on eBay who carries the correct horn button. I just like the Ferrari one. I am to the point of making decisions based on my personal likes and dislikes. One of the things that bugs the crap out of me is the correct look for the seats. Mine are not what I wanted. The other is the door handles. I hope to get that corrected this summer.But, the radio antenna on the wrong side (correct for Ferrari, wrong for McBurnie), the grill-which I have yet to see a substitute for other than a Ferrari type, and some of the finishing touches I plan to make my own. I don't want anyone to think I am trying to pose as Car 4, just want as close a copy as I can have and still have my own touches.And I hat that I haven't had time to post anything on here in a while. Work has been crazy. Heroin is here to stay in suburban Georgia, and Meth is not giving an inch either. We arrested a week guy a couple of weeks ago with over $300,000 cash. Took a 2013 BMW in another case. Living the Miami Vice life, for sure.I have driven the car to the office a couple of times, but I park around back to keep from drawing attention to the building. (No, they might fire me if I put a "Gold Coast Trading" sing on the door--but it is a thought).Anyway, I am trying to put some time into upgrades this year. If I wait much longer I'll be to old to be able to get in and out of it!JN[/quote']Seats? how so? as they look pretty close to the post pilot S2 seats.Yeah with the Grill I was thinking kind of the same thing, wouldnt be that hard to make one with the right machinery and stainless steel work.Hell not even with Stainless or aluminum, they apparently can chrome plastic now. something they do on fords now where they coat the plastic via some electroless Nickel plating like deal.they had a whole episode on how its done with chrome/stainless steel, never knew that SS had 10 to 20% chrome in itand maybe sort of layered in a similar way to the way the Mcburnie was done but in the same size and dimensions as the ferrari/rowley one.Yeah as the economy gets worse I wouldnt be the least bit surprised if all over the country we start to get a repeat of miami in its early days when the drug trade really started to kick off.Especially with those with very little to loose who grew up with nothing, even thought they end up poisoning each other with it by selling it on there own streets I would imagine. kinda reminds me of something John Wayne once said where if you gave everyone 5 dollars in one room, sure enough when you come back in 2 or 3 weeks some SOB would have taken all the money from the others.

and the drug trade seems to be yet another extension of that, just like good old corporate greed. where some CEO comes in, ruins the product by cheapening it, takes the money from the sales while people still think the product is good via there stock options and runs off with the money while the stock plummets for everyone else in the company.as theres no cause that they cant cash in there stock options for a few years to make sure they dont pull a bait and switch and run off with the money while the company crashes. and then when people try to be self employed after being kicked out of a failing company they tax the hell out of them in places like CT, and they wonder why the economy is in shambles and people cant find jobs.guess our leaders have never heard of the Domino effect and have to have people tell them dont shoot yourself in the foot, it hurts too. Still though it would be fun to see boats like the Scarab and the Stinger come back, hell Chris Craft hasnt made a speedboat in quite some time from what I understand, ditto with the wellcraft Scarab.think the only really prominent one that comes to mind is that Donzi they used in the vice movie back in 06and also I've been looking around at some boat programs, the scarab's paint job still seems unique amongst all of those white boats everyone has even 30 years latterkinda surprised that there wasnt more boats out there with that kind of aqua paintjob really, as that would be ideal for hiding like Crockett did in Killshot.and thanks yeah I just so happened to be sorting out the Photo files for the car and zoomed in on the right side quarter pannel of it. and I said to myself you know that text looks short enough to say 350 GTS like it did on the back end so I brought it up.didnt even think of the M logo on the nose really, think I brought that up intitally but without the text on the side it was easy enough to write off as a mcburnie logo.Also not sure if you've seen this one but I think someone tried my idea of using satin black instead of matt black on the windshield trim, along with blacking out the chrome.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Replica-Kit-Makes-Ferrari-Daytona-Spider-1969-ferarri-daytona-roadster-replica-350-ci-v-8-5-speed-/400499152031?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item5d3f9c149f&vxp=mtrplus theres a few other really trick features on it, dont worry its not the crook, looks like a legit sale.also I came across this ferrari daytona on finecars.cchttp://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/219553/index.html?no_cache=1&ret=63 and I think with this color combination the beige really works with this carpet, gives it almost a Miami Vice TR like contrast.plus dino blue metallic is a beautiful color, think its the same color as the one used on Top Gear with the race with that speedboat on the rivera. possibly also the original paint job for the gumball rally cobra too as it turns out that the car had been repainted in grabber blue AFTER the film I found out.possibly recently too, the last photo of it in its original color seemed to be that.Still just glad to hear that car is alright, always loved that little cobra in that film

kinda a win win, I find that ferrari, find out the Cobra was painted in that FINALLY (wondered that for years, I need to build a model of that car one of these days like I did when I was a kid) and that the car is alright and an idea for the carpet in the car to match the TR without changing the color of the leather.also wonder if this is the anttena for the daytona at the end here at 0:33 or the microphone to record the cars engine notes?

The red Daytona you can find also at the offical Website from Tom McBurnie http://www.thunderranch.com/history.html

Hmmm weird though, no real specific listing for the car outside of that. yet they have a listing for a Porsche 904 like the replica Chuck Barry has.

[Kavinsky]

Jurrasic forgive me if I'm incorrect but isnt this your gun from the pics of the weapons section, or is this Capri's?http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=2139http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=348611119

[jurassic narc]

http://www.miamiviceonline.com/vbglossar.php?do=showentry&id=2139http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=348611119

Not my gun. I took those pictures several years ago. Can't remember the members name who had come by to see my Daytona and had the gun.

[reholmes]

Off TopicDoes anyone know what black paint McBurnie was using in the '87 time frame?

[Sonny-Burnett]

Does anyone know what black paint McBurnie was using in the '87 time frame?

Mine was referenced as "Tuxedo Black" but I don't know the manufacturer. I have a small bottle of touchup paint that came with the car but it is not labeled.

[reholmes]

Mine was referenced as "Tuxedo Black" but I don't know the manufacturer. I have a small bottle of touchup paint that came with the car but it is not labeled.

Thanks.Tuxedo Black brings up over a hundred references, but all the GM codes point to WA0848. I would assume given the year of construction, it's single phase enamel.Dick

[Kavinsky]

Not my gun. I took those pictures several years ago. Can't remember the members name who had come by to see my Daytona and had the gun.

huh That's odd that it shows up now then. FYI I was actually just looking to see if the guy who had the bren ten book had posted it on GB and saw the ad, and that is literally the only bren ten I've seen like that.but back ontopic wasnt the car color for the show a Midnight black, hence the blue tint in some scenes? or is that just a generic term for black that gives off a blue tint under the right lighting circumstances?