The Ferrari Daytonas of Miami Vice

[reholmes]

The light only indicates problems with the hydraulics--like a broken line--not the mechanical stuff.

[Sonny-Burnett]

Sonny I think you mentioned that you thought that the red light could be something to do with the braking system' date=' so have you had those and the other hoses checked over?[url']http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-general/3069699-scary-1972-coupe-brake-calipers.htmlas it is a 25 year old caralso the advice here should help when looking for any sort of leakagehttp://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-tech-performance/3135721-canadas-most-determined-oil-leak-2.htmland the calipers even on modern cars with MA driving up here usually need to be probably replaced about 10K miles with my kind of driving.as I hate it when people drive 30 when everyone else normally does 40+, as 30 feels like a walking speed.

Three reasons you get a brake warning light; bulb check' date=' hand brake on, a leak in ONE of your brake hydraulic systems (front or rear). If the front fails you'll know it; rear you may not.[/quote']When I first drove the car home from out of state, I had a recurring red light (think it was the other red light, on the lower right side of the panel) coming on for long periods and occasionally turning off. I learned later after mechanical inspection that I had a bad master cylinder and so after it was replaced the light did not come back on. So I'm pretty sure that was the Brake red warning light and not the red light I am seeing now (lower left).

[Sonny-Burnett]

Easy to check codes without a scanner to confirm your amber light. Google "check codes without a scanner' date='" there's a ton of stuff out there. As for the other red light, disconnect the temp sensor/sender at the front of the engine and that will probably give you a clue. If you have gauges for the critical measurands, you should be safe regardless of the light.[/quote']I haven't been able to identify that sensor you are referring to as of yet. Not really sure what I am looking for. I have been watching the gauges, in particular the water temp as well as the oil pressure to look for any spikes.

[Kavinsky]

The light only indicates problems with the hydraulics--like a broken line--not the mechanical stuff.

Okay that explains the other incident then lolI'll go and post on the corvette forums to try and figure out what is going on, see what they say it could be.

[Kavinsky]

Okay got a reply and this is what one of the guys saidyour best bet would be to pull the cluster out and see if you can figure out what color wire goes to that light, then we can use a diagram to track it down.

[reholmes]

Motor Week did a bit on the Volo Museum and several seconds on the Daytona Spyder. See at http://video.pbs.org/video/2365080506/

[jurassic narc]

Motor Week did a bit on the Volo Museum and several seconds on the Daytona Spyder. See at http://video.pbs.org/video/2365080506/

Unfortunate that Volo continues to advertise the car as the real thing. Wonder how many of the others are bogus. That particular car was not even built when Miami Vice was airing (at least not Season 1 and 2).

[Brian W]

Unfortunate that Volo continues to advertise the car as the real thing. Wonder how many of the others are bogus. That particular car was not even built when Miami Vice was airing (at least not Season 1 and 2).

Are you sure about that JN? I am well aware this car has no documentation and if I remember correctly the numbers don't match (and it may not have a VIN)' date=' but I thought this car had evidence of camera mounts as well as a 2nd brake pedal (and had documentation that it was in the movie Speed Zone??)? It appeared to have the correct spinners, tail pipes, side mirrors, and the seats even had the black stripe across the back when this car was "found" in 2006. Completely wrong dash and wheel, though.I know when I read this back in 2006 I thought it was as good a contender as any for the other "lost" Daytona from MV: [url']http://www.vetteweb.com/features/vemp_0611_miami_vice_ferrari/. I believe this car was restored and is now the Volo museum car. We've all learned a lot since then though.I'm not saying it is or it isn't, as I am FAR from an expert on this topic (especially compared to you guys in this forum). But I thought it could be...-Brian W

[reholmes]

Is this the car they were selling for $140k recently?

[jurassic narc]

http://www.vetteweb.com/features/vemp_0611_miami_vice_ferrari/. I believe this car was restored and is now the Volo museum car. We've all learned a lot since then though.I'm not saying it is or it isn't, as I am FAR from an expert on this topic (especially compared to you guys in this forum). But I thought it could be...-Brian W

According to Carl Roberts, who owned both cars at one time, the Camera Car belongs to CameraDaytona. The stunt car was disassembled to try to build a Testarossa stunt car. The dimensions were all wrong, so he went with the Pantera. The stunt car was never re-assembled. The cars used for Speed Zone were Daytonas that Roberts Motors built. ANd this car was used in Speed Zone. Carl contacted me and wanted me to help get the car back from Texas, but he told me all along it was not one of the Vice cars.The spinners, the wheels, and the seat covers may have come from the Stunt Car, but that doesn't make it the car. Carl still has the frame (with VIN) and some of the other parts of the car. He didn't retain the body as it will only fit a car with frame damage on one side (and the Volo car is the same length on both sides). And yes, they tried to sell it for a ridiculous amount.

[CameraDaytona]

Are you sure about that JN? I am well aware this car has no documentation and if I remember correctly the numbers don't match (and it may not have a VIN)' date=' but I thought this car had evidence of camera mounts as well as a 2nd brake pedal (and had documentation that it was in the movie Speed Zone??)? It appeared to have the correct spinners, tail pipes, side mirrors, and the seats even had the black stripe across the back when this car was "found" in 2006. Completely wrong dash and wheel, though.-Brian W[/quote']As JN says, it is not the second car used on the MV series. The second brake pedal is unlike the ones used in the MV cars, the interior is not at all like the MV cars, the gas tank is in the trunk and is filled by opening the trunk. etc. I looked it over closely. The serial number (which it does have) is wrong for a MV car. I have no doubt that it was used in the movie Speed Zone, but it was definitely not used in the MV series.

[Kavinsky]

also they had video on the batmobile for the Noland films here and it has a dual braking system as well for stunt purposes

[reholmes]

Anyone know Vern? Click on "Corvettes" then scroll to the McBurunie

[Kavinsky]

I'm afraid not but I remember coming across this and bringing it up. as I thought the car in that photo had the same shift knob as Car 4 during its run in the show here at 0:50http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evOf9id1tMsand I did try emailing them about it with no success, as I never got a reply back, but that was awhile ago now, so it could be worth a second shot really.as that graph of the USA was not there originally when I saw that awhile back.

[Sonny-Burnett]

Anyone know Vern? Click on "Corvettes" then scroll to the McBurunie

Nice car and the body does look to be a McBurnie in the later Faux Ferrari style similar to yours and my car. The dash is hard to make out but looks to have some kind of S-W gauge cluster along with black trim, as mine has. Would like to see closeups on the dash.The seats and door panels look to be in nice shape and I like the tan tonneau cover that apparently were done by Mr Mikes?But there are some unusual features that I haven't seen (or noticed) before in a MCB such as round headlights and a high-mounted red side marker light, and the angled corners of the front grill also look to be atypical of a MCB.The tires look to be the P235/60VR15 all around which is the look from Car 4 that I like.

[jurassic narc]

Nice car and the body does look to be a McBurnie in the later Faux Ferrari style similar to yours and my car. The dash is hard to make out but looks to have some kind of S-W gauge cluster along with black trim' date=' as mine has. Would like to see closeups on the dash.The seats and door panels look to be in nice shape and I like the tan tonneau cover that apparently were done by Mr Mikes?But there are some unusual features that I haven't seen (or noticed) before in a MCB such as round headlights and a high-mounted red side marker light, and the angled corners of the front grill also look to be atypical of a MCB.The tires look to be the P235/60VR15 all around which is the look from Car 4 that I like.[/quote']Looks more like a Carl Roberts product. The windshield surround and the missing marker lights in the bloodline of the car, along with the aluminum grill. The rear markers are authentic Ferrari models for American cars.

[Kavinsky]

sorry had to repost the message below, attachments seem to screw up the spacing of the page.

[Kavinsky]

I just recently found what I think is some photos of the hardtop that mcburnie sold herehttp://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/15...00-0.jpg?rev=2http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/15...00-0.jpg?rev=3http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/15...00-0.jpg?rev=1unless this is just a corvette C3 hardtop that's been converted and backend reminds me heavily of the one off targa topped version they made of the daytona

a one off custom to my knowledgeand I found this daytona replica in france for sale that I had come across years ago in a photoand the interior on it is something else: http://www.classicdriver.com/en/car/...na/1978/171910its really quite beautiful, and the maker even included what appears to be authentic daytona door panels with the appropriate speaks in them and a gated shifter to go along with itand also here is that aussie replica I came across with the Vice City Stinger like lights on it

http://aussieexotics.com/forum/for-s...76-4730.0.htmlwhere the headlights are angled and flush with each other to match the curvature of the nose, rather than having one be forward of the other and I just came across photos of this car as well, albeit the website it was posted on does not have a very flattering namehttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...3/image_01.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...1/image_04.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...3/image_02.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...3/image_03.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...1/image_01.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...4/image_08.jpgalthough it looks a little too hopped up, like with this shelby vs this ford falcon

vs one with a lower stance:http://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...8/image_04.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...8/image_02.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...8/image_01.jpgand here's another nice one, showing a latter mcburnie against a few other classic sports cars of the era http://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...5/image_01.jpgand ironically I wonder if this means that the white daytona that was used for the molds could be in the neatherlandshttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...e_01_thumb.jpgman just type in autojunk ferrari daytona replica and a ton of good shots show uphttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...1/image_05.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...5/image_05.jpghttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...5/image_04.jpghell could use this for the front page herehttp://static.autojunk.nl/pictures/2...5/image_03.jpgand it looks like someone painted the windshield trim on it either gloss or satin hmm funny I take a break and then I find all this new cool stuff

additonally I might have found out why the daytona replicas used 14 inch tires and 235 60's, as 14 inch rims may have been as big as they could have gotten back in 1981,as 15 inch rims like the actual cars had would have been rare and expensive back then when the cars were made. and it wasnt until 1985 to 1990 that the corvette started coming with optional larger rims above 14/15 inches according to the Tom Falconer Book on the Corvette C4

[Sonny-Burnett]

Looks more like a Carl Roberts product. The windshield surround and the missing marker lights in the bloodline of the car' date=' along with the aluminum grill. The rear markers are authentic Ferrari models for American cars.[/quote']You may be right on that, as I know you know your Robert's cars, but didn't the fender flares look a bit wide for that car?

[Stinger390X]

Yeh I also noticed the rear flares on that black Auzzie car were a bit wide? They must have added on to them afterwards for possibly a larger tire?Looks a bit odd now with a smaller tire. I also did not get a close look but those wheels look fake as I don't think they are true "knock-off's". Did anyone else notice if it had viewable distinctive lugnuts???

[Sonny-Burnett]

Yeh I also noticed the rear flares on that black Auzzie car were a bit wide? They must have added on to them afterwards for possibly a larger tire?Looks a bit odd now with a smaller tire. I also did not get a close look but those wheels look fake as I don't think they are true "knock-off's". Did anyone else notice if it had viewable distinctive lugnuts???

What I meant was that the rear flares resemble mine (MCB) and I had thought that the Roberts cars were not as flared, but I know Jurassic would know better on that.The tires look to me like they could be the 235 size (same as Car 4) as they look wider than mine in my front and narrower than my 255s in the rear.As to the wheels, I could not see mounting bolts or a large enough plate (like mine) where they would bolt on so perhaps these could be just caps?

[Kavinsky]

Okay I screwed up here, 15 inch rims and tires were available on the 1970 cuda, with 235's riding on 15 X 7 Rims, atleast according to the conversion chart for the F60-15 Polyglas tires I foundso I guess it was in aulstralia where 15 inch rims were hard to come by then, not americaand yeah I dont quite know why that guy did that with the auzzie stinger, er Daytona replica, maybe just for a drag racer look?but nonetheless I think the standard tire size for the C3 corvette was 215's, but I'm not sure about the rim sizeand I figured that car was just a mcburnie that got redone overtime with carl roberts parts, the mr mikes ones and maybe the damn shift knob off of car 4, as I still cant find that bloody thing or who made it.yet there it is on that specific car, like its straight out of 1984, so that car seems to be quite the unusual mcburnie example, if only the damn thing could talk, along with MR mike about it.

[CameraDaytona]

I just recently found what I think is some photos of the hardtop that mcburnie sold herehttp://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/15...00-0.jpg?rev=2http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/15...00-0.jpg?rev=3http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/15...00-0.jpg?rev=1unless this is just a corvette C3 hardtop that's been converted and backend reminds me heavily of the one off targa topped version they made of the daytona

a one off custom to my knowledge

I think it is a standard C3 hardtop. Corvettes have used 15 inch wheels (or larger in recent years) forever.

[Kavinsky]

I thought the daytona used 14 inch rims though, 72 spoke? unless I'm mistaken and I got it wronghmm maybe it was jury rigged onto it, but I thought the hardtop rests upon the fiberglass door for the top which was removed for the replicas.

[jurassic narc]

I thought the daytona used 14 inch rims though' date=' 72 spoke? unless I'm mistaken and I got it wronghmm maybe it was jury rigged onto it, but I thought the hardtop rests upon the fiberglass door for the top which was removed for the replicas.[/quote']I don't recall seeing a replica with 14inch wheels. Mine has Dayton 72 spoke wires, and the McBurnies used 15 inch 72 spoke Zenith wire wheels. The C3 corvettes rode on 15inch wheels and the replicas followed suit.